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Conservatism: Its Time Has Passed

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34 Posts / 55M
     :   33yrs   :  
Siegfriedson

Conservatism: Its Time Has Passed [+ favourites]

The Trouble with Conservatism

Conservatives are correct, of course, in viewing communism as a serious danger, an evil which should be opposed. But – and this is the essence of the matter – conservatives oppose communism for the wrong reasons. They see it, first and foremost, as a threat to free enterprise: a threat to their bank accounts. What they really hate about communism is that it is collectivist (i.e., that it subordinates the welfare of the individual to the welfare of the community – at least, in theory) and that it is statist (i.e., that it vests ultimate authority in a highly centralized party-government apparatus instead of in more-or-less autonomous local governments).

But if collectivism and statism were the only aspects of communism we had to worry about, I, for one, would welcome it with open arms, as an infinitely superior alternative to the Jew-ridden, minority-coddling, culture-defiling, soul-stifling, filth-wallowing, corruption-breeding, decadence-producing, race-destroying monstrosity of a System which now squats so unwholesomely in the power centers of our nation (and which, of course, is also collectivist and statist, in the worst sense of the words, even if not so forthrightly as the Kremlin).

No, the real evils of communism are that it, like capitalism, is alien to us in origin and essence; and it, also like capitalism, is racially destructive. The doctrine of communism was born in the alien mind of Karl Marx (ne Levi); and it, as a doctrine which interprets history and all social phenomena solely in economic terms, predicates the primacy of gold over blood.

It is true that a perceptive minority of conservatives has awakened to the fact that big capitalism, private monopoly capitalism, is by no means antithetical to communism (state capitalism). They have finally reached a vague understanding, after years of observing the backslapping camaraderie between Western capitalists, like the Rockefellers, and the masters of the Kremlin, that the fundamental values of the two systems have certain similarities – that they are merely variations on the same economic materialist theme.

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http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=3776


37 Posts / 40M
     :   21yrs   :  
Catnip48

Conservatism isn't going away. What other economical system are you suggesting? Capitalism allows me to progress in my life. True Communism isn't like that?


2203 Posts / 66M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

I don't believe people are conservative or liberal. But there are conservative and liberal agendas that people follow - we need both.

Errors occure when one rules over the other. A perfect system is equality. Whenever our nation (America - can't speak for Canada or anyone else) has been about equal here is when we have been the greatest.

Right now a conservative agenda rules and things are not looking good in America - we need to try to change that.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

60 Posts / 40M
     :   43yrs   :  
RaTyphon

Alrighty then......can't keep my mouth shut on this one.

First of all, if communism is so damn great and wonderful, how come it ended up to be just a massive failed experiment in the soviet states? And if it is so beneficial to all parties involved, how come there's an even worse poverty rate than other political structures? If communism works these kind of miracles amoung class and parties, why aren't more people flocking out of the states to Cuba and South America? Perhaps cause they're scared to death that one communist politician is going to sick his military bribed mafia on the other guy's every two seconds while stepping over the bodies of the poor innocents that get in the way.

Now City kid makes a very viable point on the agenda issues, but unfortunately a balance isn't what will fix this country. Balance is a temporary bandaid on a problem, that problem being that we are a federal republic and not a democracy in the true sense. Although even if we fixed our pseudo democracy, i don't know if that would fix things cause they're probably too far gone already without a complete overhaul. You don't leave the old engine oil in when your flushing the system.

Going back to the communism aspect - the only good aspects of it come from bastardized socialism. And socialism in itself is a wonderful utopian theory that will never work - this due to federalists, democrats, communists, and all the other bastards that smell a little power and can't stop - its too easy to manipulate and bastardize to benefit just a few individuals, while extorting everyone and everything within its realm of influence.


""I do not wish my pockets to be searched.""

60 Posts / 40M
     :   43yrs   :  
RaTyphon

And on that note......

PISS on my elected representatives for having their own agenda.

There ought to be a law against that......oh yeah, they friggin make those don't they.


""I do not wish my pockets to be searched.""

37 Posts / 40M
     :   21yrs   :  
Catnip48

quote:
I don't believe people are conservative or liberal. But there are conservative and liberal agendas that people follow - we need both.


That is right!! Our Constitution was made by the Federalist and Anti-Federalist. One was more conservative and the other was more liberal. Look how wonderful the Constitution was. I think that if liberals rule we will be to much like Europe and maybe have worse problems in the country than they do. If we were to Conservative we will revise the Constitution to be the second Articles of Confederation.


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     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

I base my theory on my observations. When I was a kid our country was very bad. I watched as our country once again became one of the greatest nations in the world to now were we are a disgrace.

But always there has a been a war behind the scenes that the American people are not made aware of.

This needs to change - our government needs to be more transparent. But there is yet another problem, the American people needs to be willing to make decisions, and they are not.

It was suggested once that everyone should be forced to do a certain amount of time of civil service for their country inorder to earn their citizenship. I think this is a good idea. You or someone else may have a better one. But the American people need to get more involved.

Don't talk about revamping anything without first solving the problem of a people who lets their government lie to them and think nothing of it.

Its disgraceful. - This isn't America anymore and Americans are a miniority. While the average U.S. Citizen is apart of the silent majority who will always believe anything you tell them and do nothing about it, except for maybe vote for you and cry about it.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

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