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Perpetual Motion?

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Taz1144

Perpetual Motion? [+ favourites]

Is it possible? We have made perpetual motion mobiles and things, but can we create a perpetual motion machine? The reason a perpetual motion mobile can't create energy, is because it takes as much as it gives. Meaning, it cannot power anything. But, the second theory is to create energy from nothing, or change heat into a total different form of enegry. I have had thoughts on this since I was 10, but I never really thought on it till now. But to change heat into a total different form of energy defies the Second Law of Thermodynamics. What if the Second Law is wrong? Is perpetual motion possible? Just wondering if any of you have any input.


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lastresort

they laws of thermodynamics are retarded... dont believe them


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Taz1144

And why do you think this?


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220 Posts / 37M
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lastresort

if you restrict yourself to rules such as those, humanity will be stuck to that idea... suppose if you didnt think like that, you find a way to create pure energy from nothing.... now if you followed the laws, you wouldn't have ever invented that.

newtons laws are the only laws that are solid.


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Taz1144

Ah, yes. I see what you mean. Good thought. It's like being narrowminded...and such. So yeah...I understand.


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Cynic-Al

u can turn heat into other forms of energy, its just not very efficient. thats what coal burning power stations do, they heat up water, and the steam turns the turbine which produce electricity through a dynamo. but like i said its innefficient, what happens is that the water is heated, so it is not just turned into kinetic energy.


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St. Jimmy

perpetual motion is for all intents and purposes impossible because of one thing: Friction. Perpetual motion can only happen if no energy is lost from the machine ever. and that's what friction prevents.


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220 Posts / 37M
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lastresort

thats true about the friction, however in no way is it impossible... ever hear of a vacum?


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St. Jimmy

yes, but you still have to add energy to keep the object floating, otherwise it will have to touch something, and you will get friction.


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