Universal consiousness

Universal consiousness [+ favourites]

I just wonder sometimes that maybe more exists than just physical properties in our current conception of things. When I see two bodies interacting; and not just two bodies but take the example of a river. I remember sitting one day by a stream and seeing a leaf within it. The leaf tumbled through the water in a predictable manner to which I was sure there was a mathematical model taht fit it; though beyond my capabilities to suggest all the forces. But I could sense how the resistant, kinetic and potential forces created this shape within it so to provide some function which I tried to seek. What was law were these forces combining to give? What was there ultimate aim? I'm still thinking.

Anyway this kind of example is all around; we have the ability to force things together and so we are players within this. Is it possible that everything is somehow tuned to one another but say with more or less frequency? Some rock climbers suggest occassionally they sense a felling of mergence with the rocks...like they are one with them.

Is the mind somehow seperate from the matter of our brains? do all bodies contain elements of consiousness? Are there other forces that are beyond our 5 senses to detect? Is there a reality out there which is all around but to which we are completely blind?

""No words""

I strongly believe in the fact that everything consists of energy the stream the leaf although different are one in the same the body is a spectrum which is different from the soul
The soul allows one to interact with the other energy spectrums not possible through physical energy…does this make snense

""Veritatem quaere et insaniam inveni""

yes, maybe there are properties of matter that aren't fully confined by the laws of physics, but we cannot perceive these. Maybe there isn't a universal law that allowed that leaf to flow. Was there an aim?

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Is it possible that everything is somehow tuned to one another but say with more or less frequency?

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Some rock climbers suggest occassionally they sense a feeling of mergence with the rocks...like they are one with them

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Is the mind somehow seperate from the matter of our brains? do all bodies contain elements of consiousnes

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Are there other forces that are beyond our 5 senses to detect?

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Is there a reality out there which is all around but to which we are completely blind?

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"The summit is just a halfway point"

And all reality is relative

"The summit is just a halfway point"

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And all reality is relative

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

I think summit mean that reality is relative to an individual's perception of reality, basically saying that reality is subjective.

"If home is where the heart is, then I got evicted this week (Johnny Hobo and the Freight Trains)"

But how can something be relative to something that doesn't even exist?

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Yes I do believe that 'ultimate reality' cannot be found and perceived by humans.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
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Ethereal: I've already said this before. Relative means-dependent on or interconnected with something else; not absolute. Reality is relative to other individual truths. I'll explain this:
Basically, there is no one truth, there are many. Your individual absolute is part of this 'many'. Meaning and value of human beliefs and behaviors have no universal absolute reference to truth. Truths in the human sense are ever-changing. It is always dynamic depending upon one's knowledge and growth. Truth being socially and contextually specific means that the way we perceive the world, together with our knowledge is socially, culturally, and historically embedded. The way we view the world depends on our social perceptions of truth. Human social diversity concedes different values, moral systems and thinking systems. Context of an individual or community shapes their values. If there was universal truth then there would certainly be only one rational course of action open to us. As I said before whatever beliefs we hold they are provisional.

Ethereal it would be more worthwhile, if you don't understand relativism, that you read into it before you question or challenge relativism. Note: reality, truth, etc...blah blah blah, topics have already been addressed in several other threads before.

"The summit is just a halfway point"

If there is no one truth then reading books to prove that there is no truth is rather a waste of time. Why do we spend so much time in school when we should really just be making up our own truths?

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

You really don't get it. Relativism never claims itself as universal. It is a theory. Theories aren't answers, they are simply reasons. Whatever beliefs we hold they are provisional. Don't waste your time trying to challenge and question anything if you can't listen to other opinions and to understand relativism.

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Why do we spend so much time in school when we should really just be making up our own truths?

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"The summit is just a halfway point"

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Relativism never claims itself as universal

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

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But you say that all reality is relative. And since you do not believe in universal truth you must accpet that not all reality is relative

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"The summit is just a halfway point"

So in otherwords you will admit that not all things are relative

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

all things are relative! I told you to read into relativism, to understand it. You obviously haven't done that, and now your making a fool of yourself.

"The summit is just a halfway point"

Prove to me how "all things are relative" is not a universal statement.

"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"