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Excerp: Depleted Uranium: Learn & Say No

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 46yrs • M
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Excerp: Depleted Uranium: Learn & Say No
http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/uploads/rokke.28.ram
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/rokketwo28rm.ram
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/rokkethree28.ram
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/rokkefour28.ram

http://www.supportthetruth.com/

Under the support our troops segment, there are some flash films too, but there is a lecture from Army apointed Maj. Doug Rokke as Director of Depleted Uranium Project, this is what you don't know, but should.

These are the people we need to listen to, but the mainstream media either won't show or show and discredit or never show again, they are the information sources of government as appointed by the government, which government lies about and we let continue.

Lies protecting death and holocaust, soldiers today exposed, 4.5 billion year half life, children playing with radioactive waste, in YOUR NAME. Why does the world fear and hate us, you'd know if the media weren't owned by the same corporate globalist interests, including most of our government and "representatives".

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 46yrs • M
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 46yrs • M
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It's toxic waste recycled to be used as part of ammunition, and littered through-out warzones, with a radioactive half life of 4.5 billion years.

We are a nuclear war without the bomb part. And we are subjecting our own soldiers and countless innocents to it.

Their babies are being born deformed for god's sake.

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 72yrs • M •
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http://www.captaincynic.com/thread.php3/thrdid=18479-u-frmid=23-u-page=1
0[/url
] So I was pointing out how the program relates technical advances (war) benefit our lifes.
We use such armor so we need to be able to pierce it => Depleted Uranium tips.

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 46yrs • M
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The point is this shit doesn't help anyone, it kills everyone and will be doing so for the next 4.5 billion years.

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 46yrs • M
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http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/070105rokke.htm

This is a radio interview by Alex Jones with Both a father of the soldier featured in one of the clips from the an above linked website, and of Dr. Rokke from the original post's mentioned lecture.

Either on MSNBC or FOX news I recently heard them talking about telling returning refugees not to eat their left over food, and everyone was like, I wonder why that is, and some speculation was thrown out, no mention of anything like this of course.

The numbers we are looking at of Gulf vet deaths and even current vet sickness deaths, including from a Gulf 1 DU cleanup team, who all have trouble even getting VA coverage for any of this is staggaring, if you are asked how many of our troops as a result of Gulf 1, you probably don't know.

We've all heard about various problems and sicknesses but do we know how bad it really is? I don't, I have a better idea now, and it looks pretty bad for the future of all of this as well.

This Dr. Rokke was assigned by Gen. Schwartzkoff himself to do Gulf 1 clean up with a team of scientists and military officers. Many got sick and died, cancer rates are retarded etc.

And the government is trying to lie about, underplay, and or simply deny the problem. No one left to fix things but the people.

The point being, its people like Rokke that the government gets its information that they quote to us, the problem is, the information isn't matching, the government is flat out lying and killing through torturous radioactive/etc. deaths of the enemy, innocents, and our own troops.

Rokke is who they asked to tell them how bad it is, so listen to him if you are going to listen to anybody about this.

These weapons are internationally illegal to use, except during nuclear war or something, which this is dirty nuclear warfare, this is dirty bombs on bullets basically.

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 72yrs • M •
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Knowledge is neither good nor evil, it is use [abuse] man puts it too. They developed these weapons that they may force their will upon others so they sew the seeds of destruction.
Their waywardness is upon our heads, while our greed accepts this as neccessary to make the 'World safe for Democracy!' Ah, the good life, ain't it grand?
Do unto others before they do unto you! The best defence is a good offense but being an offence doesn't make it a defence, just an offence.

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 46yrs • M
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depleted uranium news articles video

http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=World&cat=Deplete
d_Uranium


Just some more media and info on DU

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 46yrs • M
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Former Head Of Pentagon's Depleted Uranium Project Says Thousands Of Troops Are Sick And Dying From Illegal DU Use And Military's Failure To Admit Responsibility
After Maj. Doug Rokke went public in 1997 exposing the military's flawed DU program, his life has been threatened but he still continues to search for solutions in order to save the lives of those afflicted.
August 20, 2005

By Greg Szymanski

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/31934.htm

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 46yrs • M
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Excerp: Britain, U.S. Using Radioactive 'Dirty Bombs'

World's foremost expert on the U.S. military's use of depleted uranium speaks out

By Dr. Doug Rokke

While U.S. and British military personnel continue using illegal uranium munitions-America's and England's own 'dirty bombs'-Department of Energy (DOE) and Department of Defense (DOD) officials deny that there are any adverse health and environmental effects as a consequence of the manufacture, testing and use of uranium munitions. The reason for the doubletalk is obviously to avoid criminal liability for the willful and illegal dispersal of a radioactive and toxic material-depleted uranium (DU).

How do I know this? Fourteen years ago, I was asked by the U.S. military to clean up the initial DU mess from Gulf War I.

Following that, I headed the Depleted Uranium Project for the DOD, which created a series of manuals and training videos to teach soldiers about the hazards associated with handling DU munitions.

Still, DOD officials and others attempt to justify uranium munitions use while ignoring mandatory requirements that are already in place to deal with the contamination.

I am dismayed that DOD and DOE officials and their representatives continue personal attacks aimed to silence or discredit those of us who are demanding that medical care be provided to all DU casualties and that environmental remediation be completed in compliance with government regulations.

The Pentagon arrogantly refuses to comply with its own orders and directives that require the DOD to provide prompt and effective medical care to all exposed individuals, as cited in military reports.

They also refuse to clean up dispersed radioactive contamination as required by Army Regulation AR 700-48, titled Management of Equipment Contaminated With Depleted Uranium or Radioactive Commodities, and U.S. Army Technical Bulletin TB 9-1300-278, which notes the 'Guidelines For Safe Response To Handling, Storage, And Transportation Accidents
Involving Army Tank Munitions Or Armor Which Contain Depleted Uranium.'

Specifically, section 2-4 of Army Regulation AR 700-48, dated Sept. 16, 2002, requires that:

• 'Military personnel 'identify, segregate, isolate, secure, and label all RCE' (radiologically contaminated equipment).

• 'Procedures to minimize the spread of radioactivity will be implemented as soon as possible.'

• 'Radioactive material and waste will not be locally disposed of through burial, submersion, incineration, destruction in place, or abandonment'; and

• 'All equipment, to include captured or combat RCE, will be surveyed, packaged, retrograded, decontaminated and released. . . .'

In addition, medical care must be provided by DOD to all individuals affected by the manufacturing, testing and use of uranium munitions. A thorough environmental cleanup must also be completed without further delay.

The use of uranium weapons, the release of radioactive components in destroyed U.S. and foreign military equipment and releases of industrial, medical and research facility radioactive materials have resulted in unacceptable exposures.

Therefore, decontamination must be completed, as required by Army regulation, and should include releases of all radioactive materials resulting from military operations.

Americans should realize that adverse health and environmental effects of uranium weapons contamination are not limited solely to combat zones. Any facility and site where uranium weapons have been manufactured or tested should be checked, also. These include Vieques, Puerto Rico; Colonie, N.Y.; Concord, Mass.; Jefferson Proving Grounds in Indiana; and the Schofield Barracks, Hawaii.

The willful dispersal of tons of solid radioactive and chemically toxic waste in the form of uranium munitions is illegal. Beyond that, it does not even pass the common sense test.

Even the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) notes that DU is a dirty bomb. DHS issued 'dirty bomb' response guidelines on Jan. 3, 2006, for incidents within the United States.

They specifically state: 'A radiological incident is defined as an event or series of events, deliberate or accidental, leading to the release, or potential release, into the environment of radioactive material in sufficient quantity to warrant consideration of protective actions.'

The first step in putting this terrible situation right should be for Bush and Blair to set up medical care for all casualties.

They should then demand a thorough environmental assessment of the level of DU contamination around testing facilities, munitions plants and battlegrounds. They should also call for an immediate cessation of retaliation against all of us who demand compliance with medical care provisions. And, finally, the two leaders should order an immediate stop to the already illegal use of DU munitions.


Doug Rokke, Ph.D. (ret.) is a veteran of the first Gulf War and is the former director of the U.S. Army's Depleted Uranium Project, which developed a series of training videos and manuals about DU munitions for the military. The materials were intended to teach servicemen and women about the use of and hazards associated with DU munitions. However, the military never instituted the program. Today, Dr. Rokke has become one of the leading critics of the U.S. government's continued use of DU.

(Issue #31, July 31st, 2006)

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/britain__u_s__using_radioactiv.htm
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 36yrs • M
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what are you? anti-flag?

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 46yrs • M
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quote:
what are you? anti-flag?


I have no particular fear or distaste for flags?

Are you asking if I'm anti my own country? If so, no, I'm anti my country or any commiting atrocity and illegal acts of aggression.

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 36yrs • M
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lol, anti-flag is a band. They have a song about depleted uranium. "depleted uranium is a war crime" i think thats the name of it.

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 46yrs • M
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Excerpt: Bill for depleted- uranium screening passes Senate

Rebecca S. Bender / The Eureka Reporter | August 26 2006

California veterans and members of the U.S. Armed Forces are one signature away from having mandated access to health screenings to determine their exposure to depleted uranium.

SB 1720, the Veterans' Health and Safety Act of 2006, passed with the unanimous approval of the state Senate on Wednesday and is headed to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's desk. The bill, which establishes outreach programs as well as screening tests for veterans, was introduced by state Sen. Wes Chesbro (D-Arcata) in February of this year. It passed the state Assembly with a 61-13 vote on Tuesday.

'We feel it's going to be a great benefit to the many veterans who have been unknowingly exposed,'

(Comment: Unknowingly exposed? I'm guessing he means the soldiers rather than the military heads and government)

http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=14280

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