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Schwarzenegger for president?

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 63yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that SteveFromTexas is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Schwarzenegger for president?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/13/arnolds.year.ap/index.html


How do you feel about ammending the constitution so that U.S. citizens that aren't "natural-born citizens" could run for president?


Without really researching this question I personally don't have a problem with it however, I haven't given it that much thought.


Steve From Texas - Glad I'm at work today, the weather is sucking



http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html


Qualifications for the Office of President



Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1


No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.


Term limit amendment - US Constitution, Amendment XXII, Section 1 ratified February 27, 1951


No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

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"Any day above ground is a good day"
 55yrs • M •
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I feel that it is an end to our beloved nation of America and her people. By allowing some forigen person to be the head bozo for the rest of us real born Americans just isn't what our founding fathers had in mind. I mean hey I like Arnie in his movies, But I would not want him as my leader. The American people should indeed wake up and see the burning of our Constitution. I want my America back from the oil gods that are indeed ruining America as we know it. And that sadens me as an American.

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 68yrs • M •
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Although I have probably seen most of his movies, doesn't mean I am a big fan of his but promoting a change in the constitution just so he can run for president? Come on now, how low can you go?

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"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
 37yrs • M •
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if our own country isnt capable of spawning at least one person who is qualified for the job, then we shouldnt even be a country.

the law requirement is there for good reason. but if it is changed i am voting for Arnold. if he wins, maybe people will see how stupid they have been for the past several years.

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"A loving heart is the beginning of all knowledge. - Thomas Carlyle"
 63yrs • M •
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Cturtle,

Read the article. Arnold isn't pushing for this amendment, some of his supporters are.

Steve From Texas - Boy it's cold here!

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"Any day above ground is a good day"
 68yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that cturtle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Texas, just my point.
It isn't about some fan club or the republican party wanting to run him for president. Willey, nilley changes in the Constitution to promote some passing fad, so to speak, come on.
Now if it is about the rights of the individual that would be different. So how long should a presidential candidate be a citizen? One year or maybe two, or how about a presidential candidate living in the USA?
I mean, the present situation does it allow for US citizens living abroad to run? Like congress, where you have candidates running for seats which have to move into the area, they would represent?
Would using Air Force One to fly home for the weekend represent misuse of public funds?

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"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
 63yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that SteveFromTexas is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I posted this same question on another political board I visit. Below is a reply from an individual which I tend to agree with.

As a nation that has always accepted Immagrants we have for some reason insured they cannot become the ultimate leader of our nation..At the time the rules were set it seemed to be and probably was an excellent idea..I am not so positive that it still is..In all honesty it is my opinion that the current crop of leaders and hopefuls leave much to be desired..Would someone born in another country be any better, possibly, but at the same time how can we be sure..

There is no doubt in my mind that there are those in this country that were foreign born that would be excellent Presidents..It is also very obvious that there are just as many if not more that we would not want, even as a much lower elected official..

Arnold has done a fair job as governor of California, of course as screwed up as it was when he took office, virtually anyone would have been an improvement..I don't think he has what is needed to become President of the United States..There have been some foreigh born persons in politics that may well have had "what it takes", but I see no reason to change the Constitution in order to increase the shopping ability for a new President..


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"Any day above ground is a good day"
 43yrs • M
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So if a baby born here but raised elsewhere, can they come back and run? And if a baby if born elsewhere but raised but is instantly brought and raised here, it makes that much difference?

The other point besides the obvious thats been pointed out about immagrants is if we are going to be the world police and or leader of some sort it may need the opening of a broader thinking anyway.

I don't like how we so willingly and eargerly people like to segragate themselves and eachother, we cling to bounderies that keep us from thinking ahead by scaring us and we feed on fear. As long as the government is truly of the people, than any citizen should be able to run, if you become one of our own by birth or given rite, that should count, there are no good reasons for doing otherwise that have been stated yet, but I'm sure there are many fears of possibilities.

Also if our government is truly of the people then we should be able to handle it if we feel our president of whatever backround is for some reason not sound or fit due to whatever reasonable reasons.

If we don't feel secure about that, than it doesn't matter anyway, because we end up with what we have now either way, which is a system where you don't have candidates you want to vote for anyway. Let em run, if they get elected hopefully there will be a good reason. If you can't trust our own people and candidates and even actually elected officials, then what does any of it really matter.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 68yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that cturtle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I agree with you, both but I am concerned about media star becoming front runners because of their acting abilities & the roles they play. To many people have a hard time getting the stars out of their eyes & seeing the person & not the role (model) they play.
The good ol' boys, haven accepted minorites for pres. yet,
do ya think they are ready for some foreigner?

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"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
 43yrs • M
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Nothing new about actors as politicians, and I agree that this should be of more concern, at least in the area of lies in politics, we need a way to fight lying and the abuse of power in all people, especially those in authority.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 43yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/actors/arnold-schwarzeneg
ger/

Check out naked arnold while it still exists

Get to know Arnold, a little more personally, Naked pictures, rumors (thus far) of gay porn, Open Hitler Fan, FILMED pot smoker (after all the hubbub on Clinton?), accused masogonist and worse.

This is just what has instantly came up the moment I looked into Arnold scandal.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 30yrs • M •
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I'm against it, I think natural born cits. is the only way to go. But what does it matter? We don't even pick our presidents any more any way.

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"don't worry, be happy, otherwise people will worry about you"
 43yrs • M
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I'd be kind of ok with it if I hadn't look into who he is at all. He's basically a Nazi (and I don't mean a benign sympathizer).

I don't say that because I don't like him, I'm actually quite unhappy with the information I've been finding, this guy is sleeze, besides the nazi stuff he is a typical hollywood big-shot womanizer and sexual harrasser (if these alligations are true, then we are talking like reaching in womens shirts pulling out breasts in front of crews and laughing) We are talking a bit more serious than just someone trying to cheat on their wife or chase tail.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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 43yrs • M
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I hear ya, but honestly I'm a bit more worried about these people running the country, lest we forget he is currently a governer during an active petition to change the constitution for his presidency.

That and I'm more worried about outright abuse than infadelity, trust me, if some of the shit I've been learning about is accurate, his wife is well aware of his activities.

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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 32yrs • M •
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