"Each of us makes his own weather, determines the color of the skies in the emotional universe which he inhabits. - " Fulton Sheen"
Captain Cynic Guides
Administrative Contact
Talk Talk
Philosophy Forum
Religion Forum
Psychology Forum
Science & Technology Forum
Politics & Current Events Forum
Health & Wellness Forum
Sexuality & Intimacy Forum
Product Reviews
Stories & Poetry Forum
Art Forum
Movie/TV Reviews
Jokes & Games
Photos, Videos & Music Forum

Israeli Contempt for the UN: A Cause for War

User Thread
 46yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Siegfriedson is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Israeli Contempt for the UN: A Cause for War
Utter Israeli Contempt for the United Nations: A Cause for War?

by Michael Hoffman

In his State of the Union Address of Jan. 28, 2003, President Bush cited as grounds for war against Iraq, Saddam Hussein's "utter contempt" for the United Nations.

Eight European heads of state, including the leaders of Britain, Italy, Spain and Denmark, in supporting the American drive for war on Iraq, wrote in the bloodthirsty Zionist newspaper Wall Street Journal:

quote:
"The U.N...Security Council must maintain its credibility by ensuring full compliance with its resolutions. We cannot allow a dictator to systematically violate those resolutions. If they are not complied with, the Security Council will lose its credibility and world peace will suffer as a result." --Silvio Berlusconi, Tony Blair, Vaclav Havel, Anders Rasmussen, et al, "United We Stand," Wall Street Journal, Jan. 30, p. A14.


As Bush, Blair, Berlusconi and the other European leaders are fully aware, the Israelis have for years been in gross contempt of U.N. Security Council resolutions, yet none of these "valiant European leaders" who "stood united" against Saddam and his broken-down joke of a Third World military will dare enforce UN resolutions against Sharon and his world-class Israeli military, bristling with nukes and the latest US armaments.

If contempt for the United Nations and the non-existent credibility of its farcial Security Council is indeed a just cause for war, then NATO and the U.S. should declare war on the Israelis. But in reality, the war on Iraq has nothing to do with the "credibility" of the Security Council. Iraq is being targeted solely in obeisance to Zionism, the ideology which drives the Israeli satrapy known as the United States of America.

Which country alone in the Middle East is in defiance of sixty-nine separate United Nations Security Council Resolutions and has been protected by U.S vetoes? Israel.

Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons? Israel.

Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspection? Israel.

Which country in the Middle East seized sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of UN Security Council Resolutions? Israel.

Which country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers; soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war? Israel.

Which country in the Middle East had a top United Nations Diplomat, Count Folke Bernadotte, assassinated in 1948? Israel.

Which country in the Middle East prevents Palestinian refugees from returning to their homeland, in violation of UN Security Council resolution 194? Israel.

Which country in the Middle East bombarded a United Nations refugee compound at Qana, Lebanon in 1996, for 17 minutes, killing 106 civilians, more than half of them children? Israel.

Which country in the Middle East, in spite of repeated demands, refused to allow United Nations war crimes investigators into the Jenin refugee camp to conduct an assessment of deaths and injuries to Palestinian civilians in April of 2002? Israel.

"We have no intention of letting (Israeli) soldiers be investigated or even give testimony." --Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, April 29, 2002, responding about possible IDF warcrimes

Which country in the Middle East assassinated a U.N. official last year? Israel. On Nov. 22, 2002 in Bethlehem, Iain John Hook, 52, an official with the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), was shot by Israeli troops. To ensure that Hook bled to death, Israeli soldiers kept an ambulance from reaching him.

In spite of all of the preceding examples of Israeli contempt, violations and crimes, there is no move of any kind from any European or American leader for inspections, ultimatums or investigations of the Israeli government, which enjoys de facto immunity from all U.N. Security Council Resolutions.

Crimes of commission by the Israeli government and omission by the United Nations:

"The U.N. permits the Israelis to perpetrate "extra-judicial" assassinations of hundreds of Palestinians accused of resisting Israeli forces. President Bush and his Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld have adopted this Israeli murder stratagem and have undertaken a policy of assassinating "suspected" al-Qaeda operatives, such as occurred in Yemen on Nov. 3, when an aptly named Hellfire missile from a drone aircraft, burned alive six men, including an American (Kamal Derwish), without apprehension, trial or any public presentation of evidence of guilt." Cf. Seymour M. Hersh, "Manhunt," The New Yorker, Dec. 23, 2003, pp. 66 & 70.

"The movements of nearly all Palestinians are already sharply restricted by Israeli forces..." N.Y. Times, Jan. 8, 2003, p. A8.

"Israeli forces staged two major operations in the West Bank...where they closed television stations and demolished a block-long fruit and vegetable market...a convoy of tanks and bulldozers rumbled toward the open-air market in the center of town, then methodically flattened and swept aside scores of stalls hewn roughly from wood, tin and canvas...soldiers had warned vendors to remove their stalls so that tanks could use the street..." James Bennet, "Israeli Raids in Hebron After Sharon Rebuffs Arafat on Talks," N.Y. Times, Jan. 30, 2003.

The U.N. permits the Israelis to collectively punish the entire population of Palestinians, women, the elderly and children, due to the religion of Judaism's identification of all Palestinians as "Amalek" (i.e. a nation deserving of wholesale extermination). This collective punishment doctrine includes confinement of the Palestinian population to their homes for days and even weeks at a time; shooting any Palestinian who attempts to leave their home even briefly; fencing and blockading entire Palestinian cities and turning them into besieged ghettos as in Warsaw under the Nazis; attacks on Palestinian hospitals and churches; the destruction of Palestinian housing and infrastructure including water and electricity; the demolition of Palestinian food markets and olive groves; the destruction of Palestinian small business enterprises and banks.


Hoffman is co-author, with Moshe Lieberman, of

The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians , which is also a bestseller on Amazon.com.

| Permalink
"For a racial reality check, visit: www.stormfront.org"
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that IUHoosier is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
What is your point? Do you advocate the annilation of the jews as all Arab states want? Do you believe everything that was written in that book? I can tell you just from the phrases you wrote down that there are some non truths. The Palestinians never had a country in Israel. How can this be there homeland?

| Permalink
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
" The Palestinians never had a country in Israel. How can this be there homeland?"
Uh... They lived there for about 1400 years. That's longer then the Jews lived there before the Diaspora.

" Do you advocate the annilation of the jews as all Arab states want?"
Lets draw a parallel. Just because I am AGAINST the genocide of Jews by Nazis. Does NOT mean I am FOR the genocide of Germans.

Why do people see in black in white?

| Permalink
"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that IUHoosier is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Look at my wording, especially the word country. Name the country that the Palestinians had in the area that is now known as Israel.

| Permalink
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
" Name the country that the Palestinians had in the area that is now known as Israel."
Does it matter? Bosnians, croats and slovenians never held an independant state either. Does that mean we should let Milosevic commit genocide against them?

And besides, for a time Palestine was part of Mameloukes of Syria and Egypt. All of the territory was arab, thus constituting a nation-state. Even though, this does not change anything regarding genocide towards a people.

The wording changes nothing (besides, its inaccurate, the country of Germany existed before the State of Germany, the same can be said of France).

| Permalink
"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that IUHoosier is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Now you really have me confused. I was under the impression that Milosevic was President of Yugoslavia (which is Serbia and Montenegro) and that Bosnia and Croatia were all independent countries. Also, the wording is not inaccurate.

| Permalink
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
"I was under the impression that Milosevic was President of Yugoslavia (which is Serbia and Montenegro) and that Bosnia and Croatia were all independent countries."
Yugoslavia once controlled Bosnia, Slovernia and Croatia. The last 3 (which each represent a different racial and linguistic group) have never been independant states.

" Name the country that the Palestinians had in the area that is now known as Israel."
Somehow, because Palestinians never had their own country as you call it (state is better), this justifies genocide? I think not.

" Also, the wording is not inaccurate."
Well I think it is, country does not necessarily denote a state.

| Permalink
"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
If we can't agree on what our words mean, how are we supposed to agree on statements?

| Permalink
"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 46yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Siegfriedson is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Yet another reason for a war against Israel

Israel Defies UN To Continue Work On "Security Barrier"

Israel forged ahead with its security barrier yesterday, dismissing the United Nations General Assembly's call for the structure to be torn down.

The International Court of Justice earlier this month ruled that the wall was illegal under international law.

http://www.rense.com/general54/telel.htm

| Permalink
"For a racial reality check, visit: www.stormfront.org"
 78yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that squatteam is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Why war? How about a blockade? How about a no-fly zone over ALL of Israel? How about U.S. supported sanctions? Why war? Do you have to kill people to get their attention? Hello? Hello? Get out the gun, Mama, that dumb bastard can't hear me!

| Permalink
"Popular dissidents are merely pacifiers given to us by the Government to keep us in line and thinking someone is making a ruckuss."
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that IUHoosier is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I am personally for the wall in Israel. Palestians don't want peace. The Camp David affair proved that. Everything they wanted and Arafat still walked out. Granted, the majority do want peace, but they are not running the show. And yes America, get out the guns. Over 800 million people are free today because of America getting out their guns in the last 60 years.

| Permalink
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that IUHoosier is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
From Dennis Prager
For the many readers who have requested a brief synopsis of the moral arguments in the Arab-Israeli conflict, I offer the following list of numerical data.

Number of times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Old Testament: over 700

Number of times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Koran: 0

Number of Arab leaders who visited Jerusalem when it was under Arab rule (1948 to 1967): 1

Number of Arab refugees who fled the land that became Israel: approximately 600,000

Number of Jewish refugees who fled Arab countries: approximately 600,000

Number of U.N. agencies that deal only with Palestinian refugees: 1

Number of U.N. agencies that deal with all the other refugees in the world: 1

Number of Jewish states that have existed on the land called Palestine: 3

Number of Arab or Muslim states that have existed on the land called Palestine: 0

Number of terrorist attacks by Israelis or Jews since 1967: 1

Number of terrorist attacks by Arabs or Muslims since 1967: thousands

Percentage of Jews who have praised the Jewish terrorist: approximately .1

Percentage of Palestinians who have praised Islamic terrorists: approximately 90

Number of Jewish countries: 1

Number of Jewish democracies: 1

Number of Arab countries: 19

Number of Arab democracies: 0

Number of Arab women killed annually by fathers and brothers in "honor killings": thousands

Number of Jewish women killed annually by fathers and brothers in "honor killings": 0

Number of Christian or Jewish prayer services allowed in Saudi Arabia: 0

Number of Muslim prayer services allowed in Israel: unlimited

Number of Arabs Israel allows to live in Arab settlements in Israel: 1,250,000

Number of Jews Palestinian Authority allows to live in Jewish settlements in Palestinian Authority: 0

Percentage of U.N. Commission on Human Rights resolutions condemning an Arab country for human rights violations: 0

Percentage of U.N. Commission on Human Rights resolutions condemning Israel for human rights violations: 26

Number of U.N. Security Council resolutions on the Middle East between 1948 and 1991: 175

Number of these resolutions against Israel: 97

Number of these resolutions against an Arab state: 4

Number of Arab countries that have been members of the U.N. Security Council: 16

Number of times Israel has been a member of the U.N. Security Council: 0

Number of U.N. General Assembly resolutions condemning Israel: 322

Number of U.N. General Assembly resolutions condemning an Arab country: 0

Percentage of U.N. votes in which Arab countries voted with the United States in 2002: 16.6

Percentage of U.N. votes in which Israel voted with the United States in 2002: 92.6

Percentage of Middle East Studies professors who defend Zionism and Israel: approximately 1.

Percentage of Middle East Studies professors who believe in diversity on college campuses: 100

Percentage of people who argue that the Jewish state has no right to exist who also believe some other country has no right to exist: 0

Percentage of people who argue that of all the countries in the world, only the Jewish state has no right to exist and yet deny they are anti-Jewish: approximately 100

Number of Muslims in the world: more than 1 billion

Number of Muslim demonstrations against Islamic terror: approximately 2


| Permalink
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
We're not trying to prove who's right or wrong with some selective statistics.

We're looking for peace.

| Permalink
"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
 72yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that IUHoosier is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
They can never have peace if they negotiate from a position of weakness. Let's be serious, everyone wants peace. It just ain't going to happen. There are evil people out there. Just going about blindly saying "all were are saying is give peace a chance" is nice, but is wishful thinking.

| Permalink
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Angelfire is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Who is there to negotiate with? This is not a conventional war. Each civilian can in a second turn into an independant terrorist. We must win the hearts of the arab people, not beat them into submission. That was the mistake in Vietnam, to assume that just because they're some backward piss poor country that we can defeat them. Or rather, we can defeat them; but at an unacceptable cost.

Many people like to portray the arabs and their leaders as a new Nazi Germany to smother or perhaps a new Soviet Empire. In truth, the terrorists are evil, but nothing like the two former enemies of the USA. The former were centralized states, a state can be a destroyed (as we have seen recently in Iraq and Afganistan). But the terrorists have no state. They live in Germany, France as well as the muslim countries, indistinguishable from ordinary people. It is like a Grand Guerilla War. Unless you plan on slaughtering every arab in the world, we cannot win.

I think the fence was the right move. Perhaps not the way was implemented, taking arab land, but the principle, of solving the problem by cutting themselves off from the arabs surrounding the place, is sound. The refugee problem of the palestinians (the only real problem) is a temporary one, if the flow of new refugees can be stopped (hence if the possibilty of fighting is stopped).

| Permalink
"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"
Israeli Contempt for the UN: A Cause for War
  1    2  
About Captain Cynic
Common FAQ's
Captain Cynic Guides
Contact Us
Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
General Forum Rules
Cynic Trust Levels
Administrative Contact Forum
Registration
Lost Password
General Discussion
Philosophy Forums
Psychology Forums
Health Forums
Quote Submissions
Promotions & Links
 Captain Cynic on Facebook
 Captain Cynic on Twitter
 Captain Cynic RSS Feed
 Daily Tasker
Copyright © 2011 Captain Cynic All Rights Reserved.   Terms of Use   Privacy Policy