Happy in heaven... alone?

Happy in heaven... alone? [+ favourites]

Hey all firstly id like to say im lookin forward to posting here regularly, from what ive read so far you all seem like delightful people!

my question is.. assuming there is a heaven:

Can you be happy in heaven if everyone you love(d) on earth (ie. family and friends) arent there... (ie- if someone has went to hell!)

"One\'s too many and a thousands not enough"
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Welcome to UG Colin, Its always good having new users here to keep things interesting.


As for your question.......

I would not be happy, I need certain people in my life/afterlife. If they are not there I would walk right up to god and punch him.

"The Restless Mind - The curiosity of intellectual infancy"

also if I may add....if someone was depending on you back here on earth, how could you be happy living it up in heaven?

He wouldn't depend on anyone. He would have found out that things that were of value in his previous life are not irrevalant

"I'll heal ur woundz I'll set u free, I m jesus christ on xtacy"

If someone you love is in Hell, they obviously did some very bad things. you would probably realise that you didn't truly love a person that bad because in my opinion, you would have to be very bad to go to hell

"I WILL DEBATE!!!"

Can you be happy in Heaven? of course you can-
Heaven exsists only for the living and it is important to them to know you will be happy in the 'afterlife' it makes there exsistence that much easier to bare. So just tell them you will be happy and they will be happy that is all that is required.

"No one ever won a war by sitting in a ditch"

who here genuinely believes there is a heaven? despite my question i must admit that my faith sways on this belief more often than not!

"One\'s too many and a thousands not enough"

I have an answer that will address both questions!

Assuming that:

1. You and your loved ones are actually part of a greater whole.
2. The reason you are not able to realize that you are actually in essence the same thing is that as humans you are limited by your intelligence.
3. When you die you are no longer limited by being human and can therefore understand the connection that exists

With those assumptions, when you die you are in the spirit form, and therefore are reconnected to the greater whole. If this happens, you will understand that those still alive are actually with you, just in different form. You will be able to feel and think and see everything that they see, they simply will not know you are there.

Hence I believe in a form of heaven, I do not believe in hell (because the reasons we are given for people to be sent to hell are too dependant on things out of people's control such as their upbringing etc), and i believe you will never be unhappy after you die because you will never be alone.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

well i would like to say finally i have found something interesting to do on the internet cus i have done nearly everything else being atechnician and addicted.

Anyway i would like to say that i will be happy in heaven dont matter who there cus if they didnt deserve to be then they didnt deserve me depending on them for happiness.

thats my opinion

"Nothing\\\'s Impossible, It Just Hasn\\\'t Been Done Yet"

Like Decius - I believe heaven is being a part of a greater whole and I don't believe in hell either,

or going to hell simply means, that's it, its over, you are actually no more, you can't suffer if you are not.

Becoming a part of that greater whole I don't think happens in one life time, in the meantime, we are reincarnated and do not remember the past. Some however are haunted by memories of the past. It is not certain if this is their actual past life or past lives of shadows left behind by others according to the Kahuna religion.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

Has everyone seen the movie What Dreams May Come? Well, I got the impression from that movie that heaven is what you make it to be. Robin Williams's (in the movie) heaven was his wife's painting. His kids got to be whoever they wanted to be when they were in their "heaven." His wife committed suicide, and he had a chance to go and save her from the suffering & hell that she had to live in. Then they got the choice to be reborn or just live in their heaven.

That's what I've always believed in when it comes to heaven. So if you make your heaven, how could you not be happy?

"Don't be afraid to care."

My take on the matter is this. If you believe in Heaven, you must assume there is a god, a creator if Heaven. And why would God let you into Heaven? Where do you get your idea of Heaven from? And, is it possible that you just made it up?

If you go to Heaven when you die, I would figure that God has this ordeal with suffering all worked out. Or, at least he allows it for some reason which we don't understand, one that he hasn't revealed to us.

But that's not what I think. I believe Heaven is a place where there is no suffering. So there would be no reason to fret knowing the possibility that your family or friends went to Hell. All I know is that it will be far better than we can understand or imagine. I take my view from the Bible by the way. I don't know about anyone else, but I need to see or hear something that claims the truth, before I can actually believe it.

"All statements are false. The last statement is false.--One of these statements is true."

the bible, in different passages, explains this event in as much detail as a human mind can understand heaven. 1.basically, god is the creator of all
2.because he created us we are infinitely inferior to him and thus our ties on earth are only that: ties on earth
3.so when we get to heaven we won't remember our friends and family in any human ways. all we will know is god and hs love. thus eternal bliss in heaven.

""If I am wrong, Thy Grace impart to find that better Way.""

The bible does state all of those things but God is made out to be this great superior being, so assuming there is one & this is the one that does exist, if you truly love someone then wouldn't he want you to be happy with the people you love most? I recently lost my grandfather & I know if my grandma knew when she got to heaven & still wouldn't be able to see him she would never feel at all better. Don't get me wrong, she will never be completly healed, but believing, or at least hoping, that he is looking down on her & that she will be able to see & recognize him again in heaven will help her get over it. So many people, I'm sure, feel the same way as my grandmother so shouldn't God want them to be happy? Anyways, that's my opinion, but to tell you the truth I'm not even sure if I believe it...

"When life gives you lemons, I say grab the tequilla!"

I remember a saying:

'true love never dies'.

""No words""