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Joe Stack Flies his Plane into an IRS Building |
quote: If you're reading this, you're no doubt asking yourself, 'Why did this have to happen?' The simple truth is that it is complicated and has been coming for a long time. The writing process, started many months ago, was intended to be therapy in the face of the looming realization that there isn't enough therapy in the world that can fix what is really broken. Needless to say, this rant could fill volumes with example after example if I would let it. I find the process of writing it frustrating, tedious, and probably pointless... especially given my gross inability to gracefully articulate my thoughts in light of the storm raging in my head. Exactly what is therapeutic about that I'm not sure, but desperate times call for desperate measures. We are all taught as children that without laws there would be no society, only anarchy. Sadly, starting at early ages we in this country have been brainwashed to believe that, in return for our dedication and service, our government stands for justice for all. We are further brainwashed to believe that there is freedom in this place, and that we should be ready to lay our lives down for the noble principals represented by its founding fathers. Remember? One of these was 'no taxation without representation'. I have spent the total years of my adulthood unlearning that crap from only a few years of my childhood. These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a 'crackpot', traitor and worse. While very few working people would say they haven't had their fair share of taxes (as can I), in my lifetime I can say with a great degree of certainty that there has never been a politician cast a vote on any matter with the likes of me or my interests in mind. Nor, for that matter, are they the least bit interested in me or anything I have to say. Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it's time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country's leaders don't see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political 'representatives' (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the 'terrible health care problem'. It's clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don't get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in. And justice? You've got to be kidding! How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly 'holds accountable' its victims, claiming that they're responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law 'requires' a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that's not 'duress' than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is. How did I get here? My introduction to the real American nightmare starts back in the early '80s. Unfortunately after more than 16 years of school, somewhere along the line I picked up the absurd, pompous notion that I could read and understand plain English. Some friends introduced me to a group of people who were having 'tax code' readings and discussions. In particular, zeroed in on a section relating to the wonderful 'exemptions' that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy. We carefully studied the law (with the help of some of the 'best', high-paid, experienced tax lawyers in the business), and then began to do exactly what the 'big boys' were doing (except that we weren't steeling from our congregation or lying to the government about our massive profits in the name of God). We took a great deal of care to make it all visible, following all of the rules, exactly the way the law said it was to be done. The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living. However, this is where I learned that there are two 'interpretations' for every law; one for the very rich, and one for the rest of us... Oh, and the monsters are the very ones making and enforcing the laws; the inquisition is still alive and well today in this country. That little lesson in patriotism cost me $40,000+, 10 years of my life, and set my retirement plans back to 0. It made me realize for the first time that I live in a country with an ideology that is based on a total and complete lie. It also made me realize, not only how naive I had been, but also the incredible stupidity of the American public; that they buy, hook, line, and sinker, the crap about their 'freedom'... and that they continue to do so with eyes closed in the face of overwhelming evidence and all that keeps happening in front of them. Before even having to make a shaky recovery from the sting of the first lesson on what justice really means in this country (around 1984 after making my way through engineering school and still another five years of 'paying my dues'), I felt I finally had to take a chance of launching my dream of becoming an independent engineer. On the subjects of engineers and dreams of independence, I should digress somewhat to say that I'm sure that I inherited the fascination for creative problem solving from my father. I realized this at a very young age. The significance of independence, however, came much later during my early years of college; at the age of 18 or 19 when I was living on my own as student in an apartment in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to in his retirement. Instead he was one of the thousands who got nothing because the incompetent mill management and corrupt union (not to mention the government) raided their pension funds and stole their retirement. All she had was social security to live on. In retrospect, the situation was laughable because here I was living on peanut butter and bread (or Ritz crackers when I could afford to splurge) for months at a time. When I got to know this poor figure and heard her story I felt worse for her plight than for my own (I, after all, I thought I had everything to in front of me). I was genuinely appalled at one point, as we exchanged stories and commiserated with each other over our situations, when she in her grandmotherly fashion tried to convince me that I would be 'healthier' eating cat food (like her) rather than trying to get all my substance from peanut butter and bread. I couldn't quite go there, but the impression was made. I decided that I didn't trust big business to take care of me, and that I would take responsibility for my own future and myself. Return to the early '80s, and here I was off to a terrifying start as a 'wet-behind-the-ears' contract software engineer... and two years later, thanks to the fine backroom, midnight effort by the sleazy executives of Arthur Andersen (the very same folks who later brought us Enron and other such calamities) and an equally sleazy New York Senator (Patrick Moynihan), we saw the passage of 1986 tax reform act with its section 1706. For you who are unfamiliar, here is the core text of the IRS Section 1706, defining the treatment of workers (such as contract engineers) for tax purposes. Visit this link for a conference committee report (http://www.synergistech.com/1706.shtml#ConferenceCommitteeReport) regarding the intended interpretation of Section 1706 and the relevant parts of Section 530, as amended. For information on how these laws affect technical services workers and their clients, read our discussion here (http://www.synergistech.com/ic-taxlaw.shtml). SEC. 1706. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN TECHNICAL PERSONNEL. (a) IN GENERAL - Section 530 of the Revenue Act of 1978 is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new subsection: (d) EXCEPTION. - This section shall not apply in the case of an individual who pursuant to an arrangement between the taxpayer and another person, provides services for such other person as an engineer, designer, drafter, computer programmer, systems analyst, or other similarly skilled worker engaged in a similar line of work. (b) EFFECTIVE DATE. - The amendment made by this section shall apply to remuneration paid and services rendered after December 31, 1986. Note: · 'another person' is the client in the traditional job-shop relationship. · 'taxpayer' is the recruiter, broker, agency, or job shop. · 'individual', 'employee', or 'worker' is you. Admittedly, you need to read the treatment to understand what it is saying but it's not very complicated. The bottom line is that they may as well have put my name right in the text of section (d). Moreover, they could only have been more blunt if they would have came out and directly declared me a criminal and non-citizen slave. Twenty years later, I still can't believe my eyes. During 1987, I spent close to $5000 of my 'pocket change', and at least 1000 hours of my time writing, printing, and mailing to any senator, congressman, governor, or slug that might listen; none did, and they universally treated me as if I was wasting their time. I spent countless hours on the L.A. freeways driving to meetings and any and all of the disorganized professional groups who were attempting to mount a campaign against this atrocity. This, only to discover that our efforts were being easily derailed by a few moles from the brokers who were just beginning to enjoy the windfall from the new declaration of their 'freedom'. Oh, and don't forget, for all of the time I was spending on this, I was loosing income that I couldn't bill clients. After months of struggling it had clearly gotten to be a futile exercise. The best we could get for all of our trouble is a pronouncement from an IRS mouthpiece that they weren't going to enforce that provision (read harass engineers and scientists). This immediately proved to be a lie, and the mere existence of the regulation began to have its impact on my bottom line; this, of course, was the intended effect. Again, rewind my retirement plans back to 0 and shift them into idle. If I had any sense, I clearly should have left abandoned engineering and never looked back. Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn't need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they were closed; just like that. The result was economic devastation in the region that rivaled the widely publicized Texas S&L fiasco. However, because the government caused it, no one gave a shit about all of the young families who lost their homes or street after street of boarded up houses abandoned to the wealthy loan companies who received government funds to 'shore up' their windfall. Again, I lost my retirement. Years later, after weathering a divorce and the constant struggle trying to build some momentum with my business, I find myself once again beginning to finally pick up some speed. Then came the .COM bust and the 911 nightmare. Our leaders decided that all aircraft were grounded for what seemed like an eternity; and long after that, 'special' facilities like San Francisco were on security alert for months. This made access to my customers prohibitively expensive. Ironically, after what they had done the Government came to the aid of the airlines with billions of our tax dollars ... as usual they left me to rot and die while they bailed out their rich, incompetent cronies WITH MY MONEY! After these events, there went my business but not quite yet all of my retirement and savings. By this time, I'm thinking that it might be good for a change. Bye to California, I'll try Austin for a while. So I moved, only to find out that this is a place with a highly inflated sense of self-importance and where damn little real engineering work is done. I've never experienced such a hard time finding work. The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages... and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn't give a fuck about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies. To survive, I was forced to cannibalize my savings and retirement, the last of which was a small IRA. This came in a year with mammoth expenses and not a single dollar of income. I filed no return that year thinking that because I didn't have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed. But they didn't notify me in time for me to launch a legal objection so when I attempted to get a protest filed with the court I was told I was no longer entitled to due process because the time to file ran out. Bend over for another $10,000 helping of justice. So now we come to the present. After my experience with the CPA world, following the business crash I swore that I'd never enter another accountant's office again. But here I am with a new marriage and a boatload of undocumented income, not to mention an expensive new business asset, a piano, which I had no idea how to handle. After considerable thought I decided that it would be irresponsible NOT to get professional help; a very big mistake. When we received the forms back I was very optimistic that they were in order. I had taken all of the years information to XXXX XXXX, and he came back with results very similar to what I was expecting. Except that he had neglected to include the contents of Sheryl's unreported income; $12,700 worth of it. To make matters worse, XXXX knew all along this was missing and I didn't have a clue until he pointed it out in the middle of the audit. By that time it had become brutally evident that he was representing himself and not me. This left me stuck in the middle of this disaster trying to defend transactions that have no relationship to anything tax-related (at least the tax-related transactions were poorly documented). Things I never knew anything about and things my wife had no clue would ever matter to anyone. The end result is... well, just look around. I remember reading about the stock market crash before the 'great' depression and how there were wealthy bankers and businessmen jumping out of windows when they realized they screwed up and lost everything. Isn't it ironic how far we've come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn't have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it's 'business-as-usual'. Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes... isn't that a clever, tidy solution. As government agencies go, the FAA is often justifiably referred to as a tombstone agency, though they are hardly alone. The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws. I know I'm hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand. It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn't limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants. I know there have been countless before me and there are sure to be as many after. But I also know that by not adding my body to the count, I insure nothing will change. I choose to not keep looking over my shoulder at 'big brother' while he strips my carcass, I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual won't continue; I have just had enough. I can only hope that the numbers quickly get too big to be white washed and ignored that the American zombies wake up and revolt; it will take nothing less. I would only hope that by striking a nerve that stimulates the inevitable double standard, knee-jerk government reaction that results in more stupid draconian restrictions people wake up and begin to see the pompous political thugs and their mindless minions for what they are. Sadly, though I spent my entire life trying to believe it wasn't so, but violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer. The cruel joke is that the really big chunks of shit at the top have known this all along and have been laughing, at and using this awareness against, fools like me all along. I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let's try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well. The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed. Joe Stack (1956-2010) 02/18/2010
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If you disagree with the government rally together and beat them with votes. Smashing your own plane into the echelon/irs building is the same thing terrorists do. I promise you if we encounter another one of these event's staged or otherwise or if this Joe Stack creates an uprising in the U.S. population in any sector we will see military law and a true police state, as if we aren't already a police state enough. FUCK JOE STACK. Now we are all going to be considered possible threats. I was much happier when it was just muslims that needed to be profiled. Now I can't even blame the government for taking extra security steps because I'm a white male considering Joe Stacks are the new threat against us. I hope anyone else thinking this guy is cool or a "hero" realizes he is a villain it doesn't even matter what he stands for, if anything. Once you start committing murder against U.S. citizens you become the enemy and you will incur the full wrath of the United States, which you would completely deserve. Thanks alot Joe. You fucking asshole.
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Joe Stack is the shit. The first American born and bred, educated engineer, 54 year old white guy who has openly said the same thing about the US that the rest of the world is, and stood behind his words with the ultimate sacrifice. You even letting your big dick out to bash him is in itself a testament to his success.
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So you idolize a terrorist?
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Terrorists, by the defining word "terror", cause terror by their actions. I sincerely doubt anyone is "terrified" of Joe Stack, and therefore, it is certainly an unjust and libelous label you are giving him, generalizing any action taken where innocent lives are threatened as an act of terrorism. Then, I must do your work for you and go further into explaining that a terrorist to you is a freedom fighter to me, and a terrorist to me is a freedom fighter to you. The problem is then solved through amicable discussion whereby you determine the nature of the act, whether its purpose is to "terrorize", and therefore whether they are terrorists or not. The IRS threatened Joe's physical and economic freedom with physical and economic threat - his property could be annexed, his freedom could be limited by jail if he resisted, etc. I would guess, then, that Joe was far more terrorized by the IRS than he has terrorized the populace. As a result, I think he lies in the realm of "freedom fighter" and the IRS lies in the realm of "terrorist organization". If this is the case, then I must assume (because you are certainly a very consistent person) that you believe terrorist organizations should be amicably dealt with, not with the deaths of innocent people or through acts of violence. You are therefore, necessarily, absolutely opposed to the War in Afghanistan, the War in Iraq, the execution of Saddam, Guantanamo Bay, and a variety of other things the US does to "fight terrorist organizations". In fact, much of what the US must represent must be very, very offensive to you, for they use very violent means to attack terrorist organizations and in fact hurt innocent civilians in doing so. Of course, you don't actually agree that the IRS is a terrorist organization even though by literal definitions they pretty much are. This is because you are uncomfortable with such revolutionary ideas, because it makes you afraid of the comfort you have created for yourself knowing that you live in a relatively safe country, where you have a big dick, and can work out and drink protein shakes and take online IQ tests as often as you want. Your life isn't geared towards taking revolutionary steps given the truth - if the IRS is a terrorist organization, then your daughter is in jeopardy! You'd have to prioritize everything you do and say to cope with, and fight with this terrorist organization. But.... you don't want to do that... let someone else take care of it for you so you can go on with your milkshakes. And here comes Joe Stack, doing what you could never do, would never do, because you are a lazy coward... and you despise him for it because you could never believe that someone would do something so harsh, so aggressive, and it all be due to genuine terror. You believe it has to be insanity, or blind aggression, because otherwise, you'd be scared shitless!
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You are condoning and encouraging acts of violence against the U.S. government and it's employees. As a Canadian that's pretty dangerous hate speech you are spreading. YOU would never do any such thing because YOU are a coward. I would never attack the U.S. because it's my home and patriotic duty to protect it. You would just love to attack America wouldn't you? As for Iraq and Afghanistan I am against both those wars because we the U.S. aren't getting oil or any thing else from them. We are doing it to secure a region close to Israel and the U.K. and from what I understand getting China a lot of oil in the process. It's not like I like the fact that the U.S. is being Isreal and the U.K.s go to bitch. It's not like I want to have our soldiers stationed in a single other country other than the U.S. where we belong. I think we should instead of having outposts across the world have our soldiers all across our borders with guns pointing out leaving everyone alone unless they make the incredibly stupid mistake of messing with us. Take a look at what Obama has going on now....lots and lots of drones flying around shootin the shit out of people while we aren't even in the area to kill. Just our machine. I'm more than certain we are building fleets of drones and other such devices capable of completely decimating any ground forces that threaten us. All Joe Stack will do is make this more of a Police state. If you care anything at all about your country and it's citizens or even your cause do it non violently because as soon as violence is introduced the U.S. will not stop at any costs to see that threats are neutralized. If more and more of these dumbasses like Joe pop up all it will do is make me live in a police state under military law. It will be people like Joes Fault why we would have to live such ways. Condoning that is like putting guns in the hands of your neigborhood gangsters then getting mad when a family member ends up getting shot in a robbery. Decius you are encouraging acts of violence against the U.S. I really hope something is done about this.
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So you call a decius a coward yet you think it would be OK to bomb the people of other countries that can't defend themselves in order loot their wealth.
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Is that a real question? Not only did I not say anything that could ever lead you to that assumption but I said that I didn't want a u s occupancy anywhere and that I want them all here inside their own country defending us here. You really asked me that? Did you not read that small paragraph I wrote before responding? Or did you perhaps fail to comprehend it?
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quote: As for Iraq and Afghanistan I am against both those wars because we the U.S. aren't getting oil or any thing else from them
That is precisely what you said, you monkey. PM me your acknowledgment of your error, or you're gonna have to fuck off because your lack of accountability to your words is like this fungus that you hit every thread you enter with. Read the last entry in the information distortion techniques... "my words, your responsibility". Nooo big dicked monkey, your words, your responsibility. If you speak english in an inferior manner, that isn't your fault. It's the fault of your parents. But, you have a choice... you can be better by using dictionaries and calmly redirecting your anger at your own low-self-esteem... it will allow your posts to breathe more.
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So are you in support of the terrorist actions of joe stack or not?
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As I previously stated, I don't view them as terrorist actions. Your re-statement of that descriptor even though I already asserted that I don't define them as such makes you a penis as well. Do I support his actions? I don't know to be honest. I am on the fence because I sympathize entirely with his plight, yet don't have the capacity to come to terms with innocent people dying. It's similar to 9/11 - I sympathize with Middle Eastern people wanting the US to fuck off from the middle east, but I can't justify the death of innocent people. YET, there doesn't seem to be any other option in both these cases. So this is why i am on the fence.
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Okay if labels are going to be thrown around I probably agree he was not a terrorist. He didn't care at all about inciting terror. He wanted vengeance. A better more fair question to you would then be do you condone or encourage the acts of this man or think that more people should follow his footsteps? Or do you believe that we should all band together and use their own voting system against them wise up and kick those people ot of office? Like 72 % of the country says as of now they wanna replace their representatives. Clearly people are waking up and any acts of violence will be used against those good law abiding citizens that want to peacefully change things through information and votes. Just as it should be.
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There's a very complicated yet absolute "mechanism", if you will, in place in America. It's a mechanism that asserts that despite the fact that a large percentage of the populace are unhappy with their current representatives, that these same representatives will continue to remain in office. Although minor exceptions to this can be found, overall, it is generally impossible for the populace to actually elicit change based on what needs to be changed in any real fashion. This is because irregardless of what the majority of the populace believes is a correct mentality, the knowledge of who will actually provide them with that change in office is absolutely obfuscated. It is obfuscated by: 1) The allowance of politicians to use unlimited corporate wealth to promote their image (the rich control the information). 2) The uneducated loyalty to one party or another, and one's identification with being a "republican" or "democrat". 3) The general dissension between individual people and groups based on petty prejudices that are themselves the result of political pressure (politicians like the people to fight amongst each other). So, in my opinion, the idea that people will band together to make a change is the #1 primary problem that is a complete fiction to me. The level of aggression, dishonesty and distaste that people throw towards one another on its own necessitates that even if a positive change were to occur, it's incidental to the fact that it was a positive change. What I mean by that is, 95% of the populace falls into one category or another in regards to their beliefs because of comfort, not conviction. It is therefore my opinion that increasing that number is of the utmost importance, and nothing else matters except for that. Increase that number to where it should be, inverted - where 95% of the populace votes due to conviction and not the other way around. What do I mean by conviction? Not anger or power - I mean, the power of personal morality and thought based on open mindedness and severe critical thinking. 95% of the people who hate joe stack do so due to personal comfort, and 95% of the people who are gung ho for him do it for personal comfort. So, what you propose is a fantastic idea, but it is not reality. People are just too unhappy, too delusional, and too focused on escaping their pain to devote any real energy at the issues. Something like the event of Joe Stack will convert maybe 1-3 percent of the populace who hears about it into people who pursue actions due to conviction. So, Joe moved it from 95% to 94%, best case scenario. It is because his actions defy the logical suggestion that he was crazy or a terrorist, and hence, will effect more people than if he was just plainly insane. A plainly insane person will affect maybe a third of a percent of the people. In essence, anyone else's pain begs understanding, and the more purely the pain is communicated, the more likely people are to gain an understanding. When someone is considered insane, the understanding reduces. This is why the media spins it so awfully - so that no one understands Joe Stack.
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The reason why Joe Stack<I hate capitalizing that assholes name, he doesn't deserve it> is hated so much is because he killed an innocent civilian worker for a cause that a lot of American's at least in part agree with. A violent attack against the U.S. will always lead to the attackers destruction. I have a lot of pride because of my country and believe that if everyone does care enough then the votes will be passed to the point of achieving real change. If we are stuck with 70% zombie cattle then violence will only hurt the other 30%'s cause because that percentage can easily be eliminated if deemed a threat. I must also say that I agree with what I assume now as a new potential threat they must now see being white males who have political views that are in disagreement with the current establishment. All his actions did was discredit people who are working towards political change through the already established peaceful proper mechanisms called voting and representation. He chose to kill an innocent civilian he does not know and considered him an enemy and took his life over fucking taxes. If you consider killing an Enemy combatant on a battle field murder then wtf is what joe stack did? A civilian American should never ever in anyway be injured over any cause unless they are committing treason or attempting to harm another citizen. If your enemy is taxes fight the taxes just don't pay em dude or fight paper with paper, not with bullets or planes. Don't kill one of your fellow countrymen. The government needs it's taxes and NEEDS people to collect no matter what the circumstances are. So that man that died was simply doing a very necessary job for his country and was in no way the direct link to the asshole joe stacks line of aggression. This is a great country because of it's peaceful political process that does not involve violence amongst people. We have every race in our country and maintain a pretty high level of peace aside from some poorer parts of the country but anyone in those parts are not stuck because rent is the same in smaller towns that border the bad areas so they choose to be there. If joe stack was well off enough to have a plane Im sure his taxes weren't hurtin him too bad. All he did was make us look bad and murdered and innocent person and wrecked both of their families.
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futuresfolly, have you actually read Joe Stack's manifesto/death note?
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"How misinformed was I..? I didn't know the pursuit for freedom would lead to cobwebs in my head from someone elses closet."
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