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43 Posts / 4M
     :   16yrs   :  
Arcanum

...what's this guy made of?
Someone pointed out that having a more optimistic outlook on negativity was a form of repression.
I disagree.
Most people take in negativity and the find ways to remove it from them by extending that negativity to others or to objects.
But at the same time, there are people who are able to take that in and just somehow dissolve it. Either that, or they can find non-destructive ways to release that negativity without contributing to the cycle of misery.
Therefore, I don't think it is repression. Repression refers to a kind of buildup. This isn't.
Maybe negativity doesn't have that much impact on different people.
I admit that yes, taking it all in like some freaking loser means I can't or am not in the power to blame the one responsible. I just end up thinking all people suck.
I'm a loser like that. Because hatred and anger is too tiring. It eats at you from the inside. That's something I'd rather not have.


"Some men are wise. Others are otherwise."

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2866 Posts / 94M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

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Most people take in negativity and the find ways to remove it from them by extending that negativity to others or to objects.

Really? Do you really think that negativity gets removed by extending it to others? Think about it some more.

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But at the same time, there are people who are able to take that in and just somehow dissolve it. Either that, or they can find non-destructive ways to release that negativity without contributing to the cycle of misery.

You try to claim to explain how it "magically dissolves" or is expressed in a "non-destructive" manner, yet you still have no context with which to find a solution.

What is negativity? Where does it come from? Why does it exist?

You're trying to cure a disease without even knowing what causes it, what makes it up, or what the properties of it are.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

43 Posts / 4M
     :   16yrs   :  
Arcanum

For your first point- No. I don't think negativity gets removed that way. But for stupid, cruel idiots, it is perceived as removed as the idiots actually think they feel better after that.

...as for the second one, my argument is pretty much blown, but I still know that some people just don't take it to heart so much.

In my opinion, either they ignore, or are just really even-tempered. And they understand that the cycle of misery doesn't end until someone stops it.

And as for your last sentence- I agree. It is not tangible. But I have to deal with the lemons life throws at me.


"Some men are wise. Others are otherwise."

190 Posts / 16M
     :   18yrs   :  
zachfrenzel

Decius

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"You try to claim to explain how it "magically dissolves" or is expressed in a "non-destructive" manner, yet you still have no context with which to find a solution."

People do things to each other in their learning process or are forced into a situation and these negative actions (if pushed upon oneself) one should learn to just accept them am shrug them off.

They don't need thinking or repression they just need acceptance and once there actions are not taken personally one can be on with their day in a matter of seconds.

I don't know where you stand totally but if i took time to resolve all my problems all the time i wouldn't have time to do other things so i just like arcanum said dissolve it by not letting it become a problem in the first place.

(i hope that was on topic n helped if not sorry for wasting your time)


"Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be. So it goes. - Vonnegut"

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     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Zach: You have a quote from Buddha in your signature - what did Buddha prioritize? Having time to do other things or spending every waking second analyzing and learning from the negatives?


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43 Posts / 4M
     :   16yrs   :  
Arcanum

Yeah, Zach explained everything with much more flair.
Though, 'acceptance' sounds like giving up.
(And why are we dragging religion into this?)

Isn't that a false dilemma? We can both understand and 'dissolve' negativity. They aren't mutually exclusive to humans.


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190 Posts / 16M
     :   18yrs   :  
zachfrenzel

Decius my understanding of Buddha is limited. From what I've read this is the impression i have gotten of him, Buddha walked the earth in search of the betterment of man though the betterment of himself.

I don't know if he spent all his time learning from negatives but i do know he taught acceptance.

Part of acceptance is understanding people will make mistakes and if those mistakes have repercussions on oneself that we can learn from these experiences (like you've said Decius) but eventually when we've already accepted the truth in their mistake and learned what there is to be learned.

When put into a similar situation we just accept that persons actions in a non-personal manner and continue with are life's.

Arcanum i like the word accept because when we accept something it is like we have given are self's the power to not let anyone else take control of ones thoughts a gift of power from ones self to ones self (if that made sense) acceptance is just to act of taking the gift.


"Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be. So it goes. - Vonnegut"

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