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We can start this discussion by simpling pointing out the fact that he has with very few exceptions in his political career actually gone back on his word. He delivers what he says he can and he doesn't change his stand on issues because the public does.
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On Iraq, Obama said Thursday that his upcoming trip there might lead him to refine his promise to quickly remove U.S. troops from the war.
He now supports broader authority for the government's eavesdropping program and legal immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in it, after opposing a similar bill last year.
After the Supreme Court overturned the District of Columbia's gun ban, the handgun-control proponent said he favors both an individual's right to own a gun as well as government's right to regulate ownership.
Obama became the first major-party candidate to reject public financing for the general election after earlier promises to accept it.
He not only embraced but promised to expand Bush's program to give more anti-poverty grants to religious groups, a split with Democratic orthodoxy.
He objected to the Supreme Court's decision outlawing the death penalty for child rapists, even though he has been anti-capital punishment.
Obama also said "mental distress" should not count as a health exception that would permit a late-term abortion, saying "it has to be a serious physical issue," addressing a matter considered crucial to abortion rights activists.
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1. Special interests In January, the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as "special interest" money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. He now refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of "working people" and says he is "thrilled" by their support.
2. Public financing Obama replied "yes" in September 2007 when asked if he would agree to public financing of the presidential election if his GOP opponent did the same. Obama has now attached several conditions to such an agreement, including regulating spending by outside groups. His spokesman says the candidate never committed himself on the matter.
3. The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
4. Illegal immigration In a March 2004 questionnaire, Obama was asked if the government should "crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants." He replied "Oppose." In a Jan. 31, 2008, televised debate, he said that "we do have to crack down on those employers that are taking advantage of the situation."
5. Decriminalization of marijuana While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana.
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Obama is but another tool of the commufascist tyranny that anyone supporting either mainstream "two party" candidate is helping perpetuate, it really is that simple.
He will likely promote quiet war over loud overt war, this makes it no better and often worse.
Under Clinton's presidency we did more damage to Iraq through sanctions and bombings than both wars combined, by official numbers.
There are official estimates of over a million dead children alone from those sanctions.
And official numbers are never anywhere near the truth.
Just like the American death toll of the current war, the easiest number we can track, what do they do, give us discount numbers, don't count anyone not dead on the spot on the ground as an official number, in the helicopter (nope), in a humvee (nope), in the hospital (nope), from depleted uranium (shhhh, depleted what?).
What this point of your argument lacks is the fact that no matter what president or party has been in power we have been secretly or overtly at war for a very very long time.
But we keep having these arguments about which puppet is right for the posistion of public figurehead instead of addressing points that matter.
Like why are the same people creating, funding, and arming the communists, the fascists, the commufascists, the terrorists, and why do they keep getting away with fomenting all these wars and stripping countries of resources, wealth, and freedom?
Or like why we spend so much time and energy arguing about who we hope will save us instead of doing what we need to do to save ourselves, which is not to put our hopes and dreams and hearts and minds into some person we want to throw into the hot seat so we don't have to own up to our own responsibility of self education and actual participation, and if it comes down to it, outright revolution.
Because when you find out what is really going on behind the scenes of the dog and pony show, your gonna grow up real quick, regardless of how old you already are, and realise that some serious work needs to be done, and we will be lucky to live through it.
But perhaps I'm just mistaken, and McCain and Obama really are the important issue.
Silly me, carry on.
