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513 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

In my humble opinion, the word "humble" has connotations of being nice.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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2827 Posts / 91M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

It does, but then the definition of nice is in question. Is it nice to be fake? Is it nice to accept hypocrisy, or support it? Or is it nice to be honest about your observations? I have, and believe I always will, believe "nice" is synonymous with honesty.

Here, Chiron, lemme close this off for you.

For the last 3 posts you've wasted space by saying "I am not defending myself":

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Now fire away, you do not intimidate me one tiny little bit Decius, so why don’t you just let it all out and tell me what it is you hate so much.

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And although you are unlikely to believe me (and I remain indifferent to this)

Indicative of attempting to prove to yourself by proving to the world, that you are unnaffected. Defense mechanism.

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I am not here to teach or attempt to change others, that seems to be your hobby.

False righteousness (with the burried false assumption that trying to help people is arrogant) and comparison with aggression.

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My ‘critiques’ as you call them, are most certainly not focused on you (more egocentricity)

Complete, total, and absolute lie/dillusion. You have done so more than twice in the same post. Indicative of anger, and loss of control due to aggression.

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I suggest that you are merely looking in the mirror and calling that which you see in yourself, mine. lol

Another comparison, but more importantly the use of "lol". The need to laugh off a statement, or bury laughter in a statement (that is critical, sarcastic, or ironic and critical of someone else) is clearly indicative of intimidation - the laughter attempts to demonstrate that you are absolutely unnaffected by another's words towards you as a form of compensation because you actually ARE affected. This supports that you are being offended, and being aggressive.

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as you started off with a dubious appraisal of people in general?

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And for most people other than possibly Christ or Buddha, this might be where the ego steps in

Attacking another person's point, even though you supported it, only after you are criticized for your point of view. Hypocrisy, lack of clarity, and inconsistency when challenged. Indicative of strong insecurities and weak logic.

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you are implying that I have claimed that someone who knows how to filter information is being "egocentric"

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tell me if you think the Ego is not likely to deem its own intelligence as superior?

Being critical of another's understanding of your point, then fully supporting that point by re-stating what was said by the other. Unclear thinking led by a need to be aggressive.

I think it is clear that if you, at this point, accept that you react defensively when criticized, and are therefore not entirely humble, it would be beneficial for your internal progress. If you don't, it is certainly not because I have failed to demonstrate this to you - it is your choice to be closed minded. And of course, when this is proven, there is nothing left to discuss.

If you wish to respond to defend yourself and attack me once again, you may do so, but I won't continually nit-pick your posts to help you see your aggression towards me.

And I don't hate you at all. I haven't insulted you, nor do I harbour ill feelings. I just think you shouldn't pass off biased information as unbiased information. That's missinformation, which is a burden in every aspect. The fact that you think I hate you is childish. Now don't ask me why I think you think I hate you!


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

513 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

Nice isn't the word, empathetic is more fitting.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

I don't think humility can be linked to empathy. Specifically because you can be humble about being unable to empathize, which makes them seperate traits. Humility is quite specific in my opinion. It isn't "nice", "loving", "positive", or "empathetic" specifically, although it may contain these traits. Humility can basically be defined as the complete acknowledgement that you can, and are willing to learn from others.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

1677 Posts / 37M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

I think it is very important to remember though, and maybe most important, that not only can you learn from others, but that you can learn a lot from yourself. i think that is where humility comes in most. Its easy to judge others, but harder to judge yourself. Being humble helps that. It helps you be honest and get a much better idea of what is actually going on. And I find its much easier to lie to yourself about yourself than you think. So while it is important to know that it means learning from others, i think its more importnat to remember that it also means from yourself.

Would you agree Decius? ChrisD?


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

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Decius

Most definitely. That was probably one of the most insightful things I've ever seen you say on these boards. i was looking at it mostly from the perspective of humble to someone else, but rarely are people humble to their own experiences and memories, and their sub-conscious imprints.

Humility to oneself... that feels like an alien concept.


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