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Absorbed Information VS Forced Information

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     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Absorbed Information VS Forced Information [+ favourites]

Please read this specifically so that you don't provide an absolutely bullshit answer:

There are moments when we read something, or see something or hear something and that information at that very moment somehow 'clicks' in us, and alters our way of thinking. That information somehow becomes a part of us and continues our internal language. I have had this occur to me on occasion. These pieces of information actually exist with me permanently, and I, to this day, believe in those same things.

There are other times when we get information and this information makes perfect sense, and we're amazed by it but we don't really apply it to our lives because somehow it isn't a part of our internal language.

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What differentiates those two pieces of information in the sense of how it is consumed by the person?

Don't try to answer it in a difinitive manner (if you can't)... just post your own experiences and the nature of the two different types so that we may discover a pattern and therefore begin to identify universal differences in those two traits.

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One variable that I feel exists in the first type and not in the second is some difference in the "choice" that lead to consuming that information. I don't know exactly what that choice is, but somehow the first one is more like the "choice" to drink water when you're thirsty, whereas the second is the "choice" to watch TV. Perhaps for the first part to exist, you have to be looking for information.

If this is the case, how can you tell if someone else is looking for information? (no matter what they say... becuase it's 'cool' to be open minded now, so you can't trust what the fuck people say) Is there a trait that differentiates a person that is "thirsty" for knowledge and one that isn't?

Have you met people who are thirsty? Have you met people that aren't? What, in your observation, are the main literal differences between these two types of people?


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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     :   35yrs   :  
Sorceress

I have had similar thoughts for a while now but I think perhaps in a different context. I heard someone mention the phrase "global consciousness" and this is something that interests me because of a strange thing that kept happening to me when I was writing a book a few years ago. I would have an idea about what a particular chapter was going to talk about and I started writing one day and it just sort of wrote itself. And then a strange thing happened - everywhere I looked, books I read, articles, news-reports, films, all sorts of media kept coming out with the same things that I had been thinking about and it just sort of all clicked together. It was like a light bulb went on inside my mind and all the information, even though about different things actually seemed to be talking about the same thing. Its hard to explain in words.


""Each child holds the world in an open hand to mould it into any shape they choose.""

529 Posts / 30M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

"Have you met people who are thirsty? Have you met people that aren't? What, in your observation, are the main literal differences between these two types of people?"

I'd say the main difference between these two kinds of people is the thirsty person usually asks questions and is genuinely interested in the answer. But that might not happen either. If a person is interested enough for knowledge, they would most likely read a book or find something on the internet. And yes, you can tell when someone is being genuine and not some phony sophist, at least I can.

Also, it seems that most kids these days in any form of school (college or highschool) choose to learn things differently than me. I always found it important to understand things as a whole and not just memorize definitions and equations. When I did this I was rarely stumped in any class where you could deduce an answer, owing credit, I think, from this technique not of memorization but seeing where everything fits in the greater picture.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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     :   52yrs   :  
Chiron

Reading this thread reminds me that I believe in a notion of 'Truth' (not God), but an underlying, staggeringly complex 'Truth' which informs our universal experience.

My own experience of things that just 'click' and become instantly assimilated, feels like a passing brush with 'Truth'.
It has a resonance to it that cannot be copied or faked in any way, and for the 'thirsty' it is exquisite nectar.

I think everyone is 'thirsty' even if they don't yet realize it, and this world is filled with bullshit only because people are busy trying to manufacture Truth, but it cannot be done.

I have only had what I believe to be 'Truth' lightly breeze past me a few times, and it made every cell in my mind, body and soul come alive for no reason that I could clearly articulate or understand.

And the only places where I have found its rare traces are in Nature, Great Literature, Science, Art, and Music. When its the real thing, it will stop you dead in your tracks, dumbfound and silence you, and make you feel ecstatically happy all without needing to understanding why.

I think even one single encounter with 'Truth' will recharge a persons life for ever, but like so many of us, I remain thirsty.





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