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Playstation 3 VS Wii

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Decius

Playstation 3 VS Wii [+ favourites]

PS3 -> Compatibility with Blue-Ray meaning you can use it to watch movies as well as game. (huge plus)
Wii - > No DVD/Blue-Ray support.

Wii -> Wireless Lan (dunno which protocol) + Wired Lan
PS3 -> Only Wired Lan

Wii -> Online gaming environment seems engaging somewhat similar to AOL's appeal
PS3 -> Seems to be less viral and community based

Wii -> Controllers have motion sensitivity so you actually swing your controller to swing a bat or a sword, or point a gun. (very cool)
PS3 -> Same old shit

PS3 -> Backward compatibility with PS and PS2 (huge, huge plus)
Wii -> Only with gamecube (but why? the GC sucked ass)

PS3 -> Tonnes of games by separate publishers
Wii -> A few mostly made only by Nintendo

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Final synopsis: For first time buyers there is very little to compete on: The PS3 is the way to go... you get the PS, the PS2, and the PS3 in one machine and you also get a blue-ray player and are risking little as Sony has owned the gaming market for longer than anyone can remember.

For people who own the PS and PS2, the PS3 really doesn't seem that interesting. They are launching it 2 days before the Wii and are banking on their ability to milk their previous successes to sell the third generation. However, it immediately invalidates your PS and PS2 making them completely useless and doesn't promise to provide a new generation of gaming.

The Wii on the other hand promises a completely different form of gaming and will attract people who are tired of a more 2d gaming environment.

Since I do not own a PS or PS2 I would probably get the PS3 if I had to decide and then go to a friends or a store to test out the Wii. If the Wii really appealed to me with its controller gimmick i might consider getting that as well (since they are, to some extent, non-competitive products since one is purely old fashioned gaming (PS3) and the other is a new method of electronic entertainment).

I originally thought the PS3 will kick Nintendo's ass, but since everyone and their dog bought a PS2 it might not be that attractive to spend upwards of 500 bucks on a system that does pretty much the same thing, just a little better.

Another drawback of the Wii is that nintendo has really torn fans up with the Gamecube. Its games were very crappy and they pretty much destroyed all their good in-house products (Mario Cart, Super mario brothers, Zelda). So, i don't trust that Nintendo will create adult-oriented games like Sony will.

Nintendo has focussed entirely too much on kiddie gameplay. If they change that, they might provide competition. Otherwise, Sony will chalk up another victory.

Mind you, the Wii will be about $250 US and the PS3 is no less than $500 US. That being said, most gamers will probably pick up an XBOX 360 + Wii or a PS3 + Wii.

In the end, I think Nintendo may make a comeback, and Sony's dominance is soon ending. Not because of Nintendo mind you, but because of Microsoft. Sony just doesn't have the ingenuity.


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560 Posts / 32M
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ChrisD

I just wanna say I hate Microsoft. It was never in the interest of Bill Gates to create good games and personally, I think it shows. Their games suck. Halo 2, it sucked. It had good graphics, horrible gameplay. Perfect Dark for N64 was a better FPS. Bill Gates wanted to make money and that's exactly what he did. He didn't make a revolutionary gaming system, nor did he make anything of lasting value with his products (cmon, every 5 years another system is released with better specs that enhance the SAME GAMES. I could probably still play a few super mario games from snes). I don't care how powerful Microsoft makes their systems, everything they create will be expensive and cheesy, just like Bill Gates.


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Decius

You think Sony wants to make good games? Sony doesn't even make games! They make the console and pay other people to make games for them. Sony is just as bastardized as Microsoft.

And this is about the PS3 and Wii, not the XBox.


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560 Posts / 32M
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ChrisD

No, Sony is japanese. I don't know why but that justifies it.


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Decius

If you're going to be a dumbass, you should disclaim your posts.


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79 Posts / 27M
     :   18yrs   :  
thelivingend

first things first:
nintendo a while back made a statement that said that in the next few months, they would be shiping a wii deluxe with a dvd feture.

im not sure about the price

second:


Decius - "gamecube sucked ass"

wow where were you when games like: RESIDENT EVIL 4, SUPER SMASH BRO'S, BATALION WARS, ZELDA, METRIOD, and OTHER wonderfull games came out? Thats not even includeing MARIO PARTY, MARIO KART DOUBLE DASH, and other titles that kicked ass and took names.
sure some of those arn't so hot playing them alone, but if you have 3 friends, they KILL

Third:

Decius - "the wii will only be able to play gamecube games"

hahahaha you make me sick.
ummmmm did you forget about the intire retro-remix were the will will have the option of playing games from almost all nintendo platforms? Imagine playing every single zelda game ever made on one system. I dont know about you, but having acces to all of nintendo's clasics on one small package sounds pretty sweet to me




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Decius

Super Smash Brothers was a piece of shit. Mario kart was a piece of shit. Luigi's mansion was a piece of shit. Mario Sunshine was a piece of shit. Zelda was a piece of shit.

The gamecube was made to appeal to children, not adults.

I was playing video games before you were born, so show a little respect in lieu of the fact that I may have a little more experience about it than you do.

Show proof of this DVD stuff... I've read nothing on it.

Show proof on the "retro-remix"... From what I know you may be able to download virtual games or something. Nothing about playing your old games on the same console (obviously because the older ones were cartridges)

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And next time, try to write one post with all your lovely information. Don't blurt out stupidity with no idea what you're talking about. Just because your tardy brain might have liked certain games, that doesn't mean they didn't suck.

The Gamecube did approximately half the volume of either the PS2 or Xbox (which means it held 1/5 of the industry) which is dogshit. This includes not only the console but its games during the lifetime. By that standard, it is a failure.

Take your head out of your ass and learn how to pose an opposing view that doesn't limit itself to your neighbourhood.


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560 Posts / 32M
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ChrisD

Super Smash Bros. Melee was a great game... just had to put that out. To say it's shit is to not know what a good game is.


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Horrible game. Not for adults. Bullshit whack and slash. Regardless, the sales talk for themselves. The GC was a failure.


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Wii DVD version, if released in 2007, will only be released in Japan and be quite a bit more expensive.


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Some places say that there will be a US version, but that's totally speculative IMHO.


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62 Posts / 27M
     :   21yrs   :  
Zach

You can download ever Nintendo game from 64 and down directly to the Wii. As far as I know.

Also the PS3 has motion sensor controllers also, although the sensitivity of the PS3 controllers are no where near the capabilities of the Wii controllers.

IMO The first Supersmash brothers for 64 was better than the gamecube version. I thought the GC version was "ok ". Everyother game I have played for GC sucked badly IMO.
I also agree that the GC was geared too far towards children.

Also PS3 is WAY to expensive, I would never pay 500-600$ for any system unless is was virtual reality.

IMO Wii is the better choice. (only because of Zelda, I plan on taking it back and returning it after I beat Zelda)

Thats bout it.


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02shagor

go ps3 its the best ever


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560 Posts / 32M
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ChrisD

"Horrible game. Not for adults. Bullshit whack and slash. Regardless, the sales talk for themselves. The GC was a failure."

Just because it didn't have any blood and gore means it's not an adult game? I'm sorry but that's retarded. You're stereotyping adults to be some blood thirsty block heads. Battle with all of your favorite characters from the Nintendo franchise... great concept. The game was brilliant, is brilliant, and the next ssmb that comes out for wii I'm sure will be just as amazing. I'm sorry but if you honestly hate that game, I don't feel I could ever trust your taste in any game ever again. Tell me, what do YOU think is a 'great game' all-knowing-Decius?


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79 Posts / 27M
     :   18yrs   :  
thelivingend

sorry i couldn't post this yesterday

Chris D, i couldn't agree with you more. took the words right out of my mouth

Whats some of you favorite games Decius?

Super smash bro's was a piece of shit......
wow, no comment. Ummm lets see what the rest of the world has to say about this...

super smash brothers leagues all over the world, says it i think. (need links for that to Decius? try google) I don't know were you live, but smash is a great game. Its easy, fun, competative, and addicting, and there are thousands, millions of people that agree with me. All over the world, there are leagues of all sizes that compeete for money, and everything in between.

I will give you luigi's mansion and mario sunshine, but mario kart and zelda.... wow. Thats a strong oppion from someone who's never played them

your the kina person that looks at a video game and if it has more than 5 colors its automatically put into the Kiddie section hugh? the gamecube was made to appeal for "children"
yea its a video game for cryin out loud. if you wana watch porn, or kill someone, watch a movie or do it your self rofl

but keep in mind, just cause i like mario and zelda and metriod doesn't have to do anything about adult games.
i like adult games to, dont get me wrong. but they just seem to get vary old vary fast. Sure shoters are fun the first 1,000,000 times you play em, but after awhile they don't appeal to me as much as an adventrue game. I gues thats just my oppion, but im sure many agree with me...

and btw, your not so old yourself.....
dude when i was born, you were 10 years old. nes just came out, and playstation wasn't even thought of. By the time playstation came out, i was playing video games as much as my parents would allow. yea i said it, my parents.

if you wana pull that junk of all the other consols that you played before i was born; attari, etc..
trust me. ive played most of em. i didn't miss out on much, and the ones that i did i can make up for.

All that junk about video games for adults, that purely oppion. I personally think that "adults" (what ever your standard or mine) have their own standards of video games, but share the same likeing for games that are just fun, not for graphics, and techanical stuff. It comes down to gameplay, and inovation.

serrisoly, adult games are fun, and so are first perosn shooters but you gota have some just plain fun games here and there to mix it up. Thats what makes a system fun

oh and for your own personal benefit here are the links to prove my facts: (sad that you didn't hear about this stuff before)

http://wii.nintendo.com/channel.html

look at the downloads channel
yes you can't plug in all of your old games, but so what. you only buy them at a fraction of the price, and if you go out and buy the game AND download it, it doesn't even come to the price of 1 ps3 game.

for the dvd thingey, i don't remember the exact site i read it on, but trust me, it was relaible
i think it was either 1up.com or ign.com... one of the two (try Google?)

one thing that also suck out from your input is the fact that in your first post, you say that you don't even own a ps1 or a ps2. Then in your second post, you say that you have been playing video games long before i was born. Well, this doesn't make any sence?!? Its great that you played old games, thats all fine and dandy. but the industry is changeing everyday, along with the generations that buy the games. You cant play one generation of games and tell yourself that you are fluent in video game knowledge (wow im nerding myself out here)

kinda off topic but sorry about the multi post thingey. I see my wrong and i wont do it again. as you might know, im new to the whole "forum" thingey

Batalion wars, Metriod, resident evil 4, and those other games i listed were allrite then i gues since you didn't mention them, so at least were on the same page there. (THANK GOODNESS)

And finally, im guessing that since you didn't say different, you are still betting on ps3 comming out on top. well, it depends on how vage you are.

Overall, playstation will always win over Nintendo, mainly because sony is a big big company. even if the ps3 fails "market wise", sony will have its out, due to the fact that they make a jazillion different products, many quite sucesful. Whats the downside to this? You end up getting crappy games alone with the couple of gems that seem to always shine above the rest. (Yes i know gamecube has it's handfulls of crappy games, but ps2 makes me sick)

In terms of console to console, i think the wii will win over the ps3, but depending if nintendo can get enough consoles out before the new year will determine if ps3 comes out on top.

The gamecube did approximately half the volume of either the ps2 or xbox. First of all, remember that this is a Wii ps3 thread. I never said anything about xbox, and i will continue to follow the rules by not saying anything too off topic. Im not sure if those numbers are true, and it would be nice if you could follow my lead and give me a reiable sorce to prove this fact. (Just for kicks)

Just because the gamecube didn't do so hot in terms of sales, doesn't mean that wii will follow. Look at the DS, and the N64. now look at the Super nintendo and Gameboy sp/micro. Notice the trend here. (yes i know, the snes did amazing in terms of sales, but just play alone here) Notice that for every one psp sold, 2 ds's have been sold. Notice how that N64 did amazing in sales as well. Whats the trends here? New intovations. N64 = first joystick/anolg thingey, DS = voice, touch, enough said. and when nintendo didn't launch any new features that drastically changed the gameing industry, the system seemed to be a flop. Now look at the wii. I think the controller says it all, along with free online play and retro-remix.

Heres somethin else to think about that isn't on topic, but since your brought up xbox, i gues i get a freebee. consoles that floped dont suck 100%. Look at dreamcast. It sent sega into bankruptcy, but it still kicked ass and took names with powerstone and resident evil and time crisis, and all the sonic games, and many others. Many still play it, and they're hard to come by. To me, the games matter, not the comercial sucess

back on topic again, its gona come down to people paying Seven Hundrad Dollaz for a video game system, or 250 for a video game system. Everything else is oppion and objective to argument.



one last thought, theres no need to swear, or put out all that negativity. after all, we are discussing video games and this is an internet forum.

i aprecate your input, and you bring up good points, and I hope you can enlighten me more, cause im new to this stuff. (the Forum stuff)


"and then, everyone died."

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