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It's time for a revolution

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772 Posts / 39M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Decuis, again you speak the truth. And I can see the situation for how it is. Nonetheless, though your reasoning is sound, there is a bigger picture here.

To address the points:

1. In most cases yes; you're right because anger is rife. The problem is that unfortunately most business people show their emotions; or there weakness to overcome a situation. If a person knows someone who is never sacred, who can take an insult on a chin and smile and just laugh maybe add 'I pity you' as human measure; they may recall the bad situation first but they're God-like figure makes all okay. I'm convinced that the god like figure of people is the figure of the person they most respect. Yes, 99% are what you say. Perhaps 1% are also bad examples. However, a tiny fractions are not. A tiny fraction is what holds these civilizations together. Albert (Einstein) said that in a time where people followed leaders with courage and hate; he was enthralled with hope in people that they should look to him as an example; as they did when he was alive.

2. and 3. I will answer together. Why do you think about physical appearence so much? As someone said to me; take the four who caused the most destructiona and gained more of the land masses than any other four: Alexander, Napolean, Ghengis Khan , and Hitler, add up the heights and weights of these 4 men and take an average. On appearence, ask yourself what it is in them that you would seek to fear. Think more on this.

All these men hated something for sure. But, don't be fooled by what is now. Churchill, for example, gave the respect to Hitler he deserved, but never showed to the people of Britain that he was weaker than him. Leadership is what people follow for sure.

However, whilst it is fear people will follow the most due to being scared; it is only because someone somwhere has at some point fallen themselves prey to fear that nobody knows any different. If you want to be the best; there is a goal to be achieved. I believe, strongly, that people do want to have a figure they can look up to who is genuinely passionate about their beliefs.

A man once sold bagels to employees in America; he still does. He puts a box out and asks the people to pay for their bagels. They do; and they could easily cheat. More than half of business executives do too. People are kind; but people also have bad times too: and its these that cause hate.

good old Rudyard:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:


""No words""

507 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

"3. Asking a bully (in whatever way) why he or she is picking on someone else will lead to nothing unless you yourself can beat up the bully, in which case they will cower away without learning anything."

I never suggested beating the bully up, that would defeat the purpose. But why not stand up for the one being bullyed and put yourself on the line to show that what they are doing is wrong? That wouldn't inspire someone?

"Thus far your intentions are wonderful but any feasible suggestion you've made that is meant to inspire people to be courageous is not convincing."

It is not my argument that is the means of inspiring people, it is the actions that it insinuates. When you have the option to ignore an injustice and stand up for what you believe in instead, therein lies the inspiration of this method. If you let your beliefs get walked on some of the time but stand up for them other times, then they will always be walked on. If you make a point to stand up for your beliefs every time something goes against them, that is when a change will occur. We are believing at 50%. We need to believe at 100%. If we never sacrifice what we believe in, people will be proned to imitate. We can no longer be summer soldiers or sunshine patriots, it has gone on for too long. It is time to give the good in us some backbone and believe that the little we can all do will slowly change the whole. Beliefs caged in a skull are wasted beliefs. Why not let them sing their glorious song without any restraint or limitation. I have long since craved to hear their sound but so many have forgotten how to sing it. Let us remember what we have had all along, what we thought was weak, but proved so strong. I am so tired of this ruthless reign of liars. It is only so much the peasants can take before an overthrow occurs. We moral people are not alone, there are more of us than we think. The overthrow can happen now or it can happen fifty years from now, the choice is up to each and everyone one of us. I do not like to waste time, I'm ready now.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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2827 Posts / 91M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

You're not hearing me, and you have a very naive grasp on "the way things are". There are no visible injustices to stand up about. No one sees unfairness as they walk the world. And no one cares to see it, because that is unpleasant. You're not addressing this although I've repeated it over and over.

How about this... you try doing what you want to do, and give us your results in a week's time. Let us know what injustices you stood up for, and what the effect was.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

507 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

Alright, I'll agree to give you my results in a week's time but it should be understood that I live on a college campus now which is obviously more liberal than 'the real world'. Decius, do you agree that what I'm saying is right? If you do then you obviously have reasons as to why it is right. Can you explain these reasons? If you can then why would it seem so absurd to challenge the beliefs of those that are unjust? To bring their beliefs to the surface might just prove that they in fact are not very clear on their own beliefs. We need to get people thinking and to achieve that we have to ask questions. Leaving them ignorant to their own behavior helps no one.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

219 Posts / 31M
     :   31yrs   :  
Black Gold

You only really need one ideas-man, to find the answer…
You only really need one voice, to speak to the world…
You only really need one opportunity, to act…
You only really need one person at a time, to join you…
You only really need one plan, to act on…

I could go on…

Basically, a lot can start to be done with minimal resources. And, if you’re lucky ideas may catch on. The person that speaks to a nation may choose your topic and stand-point.
Things always start small anyway…
The time (as always) is now…

Be that ideas-man…
Be that voice…
Take that opportunity…
Talk to people about you ideas and plans…
Make and hone that plan you have, and follow it…


"There is no negative one..."

507 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

Thanks black gold, you see that this is a job for everyone because it is a change in human behavior. If all the people that agree become 'that ideas-man' 'that voice' then we've got something. We can all make changes that are within our power. This is not a task for one person to fix, it is a task for all to fix.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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2827 Posts / 91M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

The difficulty does not arise in explaining truth. It is seeing how the truth fills even the most complicated gaps, like water. You cannot do this with passion or desire or anger... only logic. Only intelligence. Only with awareness.

Your methods are not correct according to me. You don't need to make people moral or nice or empathetic. You have to make them intelligent. Once they are intelligent, the rest follows. And by intelligent, I mean aware. Brave men don't do anything. Wise men do it all.

The greatest men in the history of men were pacifists with an otherworldly intelligence: Jesus and Buddha. They did not lead by example... they led by logic (no matter what the scriptures may say)


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

507 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

"The greatest men in the history of men were pacifists with an otherworldly intelligence: Jesus and Buddha. They did not lead by example... they led by logic (no matter what the scriptures may say)"

And that is exactly what I'm suggesting we do. We people with morals have intelligence on our side and so we should use it. What better way to make people intelligent than to cause them to question their beliefs? I think these immoral people haven't given much thought to their personal beliefs and so to get them to think about them will in turn make them better people.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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2827 Posts / 91M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

quote:
to get them to think about them


For the 350925982035909th time, how?


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

507 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

For the 350925982035909th time, by questioning their beliefs right when the injustice occurs.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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2827 Posts / 91M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Okay dude. You do that.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

507 Posts / 29M
     :   20yrs   :  
ChrisD

You believe the human race is inherently bad, I believe it is inherently good. I will question the beliefs of those that are unjust, of course I won't challenge the beliefs of a gang that's knifing a person but I'll fight battles I can win. All I ask is that we do what is in our power. If that's asking too much then humanity is doomed.


"I try my best to be just like I am but everybody wants you to be just like them."

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