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Why is religion such a violent topoic?

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10 Posts / 26M
     :   19yrs   :  
David_Flowers

Why is religion such a violent topoic? [+ favourites]

You always see news tickers at the subway station flashing phrases like "12 killed in market place bombing in Iraq" or "Israeli rockets fire into Palestine". If you stop to think about it, most of the war and violance in the world is caused by religion. Religions that are supposed to be completely about love and peace. Why couldn't Muslims live with Christians, and Budhists* live with Hindu's, atheists with theists? Why do people always have to blow up the topic into a full scale war.

Islam teaches love (supposedly) but they crash planes into buildings full of innocent people with their own lives that have absolutely nothing to do with Muslims. People with families and dreams, plans for the future. Why do Muslims blow themselves up at crowded bus stations, what point do they serve by doing this? It doesn't give any credit or persuade anybody that their religion is in any way "better".

Christians claim to be followers of Christ. The hypocicy* of most (not all) Christians is damaging to their religion as well. They seem to like the idea of God/Jesus when they need him. They're not as faithful (as a whole) as Muslims, but they seem to be more about love and less about slaughter of innocents.

Buddhists*, well these guys seem to be pretty much straight foward. You can't hate these guys, they're very peaceful and probably the best model of all the religions.

I don't know a lot about Hinduism or any primitive religions, I just wanna know why people always make such a big deal about other people with different opinions. Sure I don't like the idea of Islam, but I'm not gonna blow them up for it. I'm not gonna start entire wars over an opinion of faith. Its personal, not international. I just don't understand why we can't co-exist.

Please post, I'm very curious.


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     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Hi David,

I think it's important that you not correlate everyone's actions into the same causal pile just because they seem to be based on religion. Muslims blowing themselves up do not do it because they are Muslim... they do it because they are trying to defy imperialism.

Christians did not slaughter millions of people for the sake of Christianity... they did it for money, and imperialism.

Therefore, both these acts that are apparently done in the name of religion are actually, 100% political.

If you ask me, truly religious people of any religion find violence to be disgusting, and readily oppose it. But then the difficulty arises in determining who is truly religious, and who is just using religion.

If I were to defend my house by killing people or blowing people up, I would never do it claiming that jesus told me to. I'd do it for political reasons.

Also, I do not believe those Muslims that killed themselves by taking down the WTC were doing it in the name of Allah. They may have prayed to allah for strength, and may have hoped to be blessed by Allah for doing the right thing, but I do not believe they actually thought Allah commanded them or that they were doing it for Allah. They were doing it for themselves, for whatever they saw as a step towards justice.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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     :   19yrs   :  
David_Flowers

I wasn't talking about everybody just religions in general. But it does seem that most Islamic nations have a hatred for Christian ones (especially America). Atheists get all fired up at believers, and visa versa. It just seems that everybody tries to justify their religion through violance or hatred. I see what you're saying about political influences but their still seems to be a hatred towards other religions.

Just curious, what jusitce can you seen in the 9/11 attacks. I'm not accusing you of being anti-American, just thinking about what you posted.


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Decius

Well, historically Christians have hated Islam more than Islam hated Christianity. There are far more records of Christians slaughtering Islamic women and children than the other way around. When Christians occupied Jerusalem they "ran the streets red" with the blood of the infidel Muslims. When Muslims re-occupied it, they let all the Christians leave unharmed.

As time progressed, Islam degraded due to lackluster technology and Christianity began to expand and gradually occupy most of the high end countries.

Christianity then became "the west" and Islam became "the east". And the west has been occupying eastern lands, providing support to dictators and helping to overthrow legitimate governments for years.

So we have 9/11, and in the minds of these Muslims they are attempting to create some form of awareness of these attrocities that the American government is taking part in. Since America is a democracy, the elected government is the responsibility of the people. Therefore, killing the people is as legitimate as killing soldiers.

This is why they might perceive it as justice.

My personal opinion is that 9/11 was a horrible event because innocent people died. It was a horrible event because the American government does not seem to care enough about the people who died. I think it is an attrocious event because the US used it to occupy yet another Muslim country for the sake of imperialism.

As you can see, we use the word "Christian" and "Muslim" to name people... but their actions are not in the name of Jesus or Allah. it is for self-interests.

In answer to your question as to why religion is such a passionate topic... it's because people have used religion to commit murder, rape, torture, and various things that you would find hard to even imagine all in the name of Jesus or Allah. Therefore, there is much reason to be passionate about it. When injustices occur, people become passionate.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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     :   56yrs   :  
cturtle

Perhaps you are being some what lead astray, I open this morning's paper to find that the state will execute a man for killing 6 college students here . . . may be a disproportional emphisis on the War?


"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

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     :   22yrs   :  
brave_phantom

hi all
Dicous, u said the point i wanna refer to...war in iraq doesnt have any relegious reasons. its just for political and financial ones. but the situation in palestine differs. its religous and financial in same time.
Israelians want the land as God told them before (however they lost this word coz they didnt follow him) and the money and other sources from the palestinean land. i belive that USA doesnt bother much about relegion as their country. they may do something wrong as God said but they say its right just coz the country will benefit


"he who has many friend has no friend to spare, but he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"

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