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Official Captain Cynic WTC 9/11 Thread

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Ironwood

Conspiracy Files: 9/11 - The Third Tower

The Conspiracy Files delves into the final mystery of 9/11: a third tower at the World Trade Centre, which along with the Twin Towers, also collapsed that day.




"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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Squarepants

You might be interested in an organisation called 'Kroll' and an individual called 'Gerome Hauer'.


"I hungry"

4195 Posts / 67M
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Ironwood

Addressing Building 7's seven year Nist report




"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

4195 Posts / 67M
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Ironwood

Outstanding, beyond reasonable doubt.




"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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®KIM

Hello! I'm a newbie here, but hopefully I might be able to make a worthwhile contribution or two over the course of time.

For what they are worth, have a look at these 9/11 videos - they might just be a bit enlightening to you americans (and the rest of the civilized world!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&mode=related&search=
(9/11)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQa5eokieY
(9/11)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIvGabNooWE
(Pentagon – 9/11)

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm
(9/11)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8&NR=1
((9/11)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=related
(9/11)


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fearless5555

Finally a discussion worth writing to....

if you believe in the released explaination from the people who control the info you don't deserve a computer or an opinion.... '

Please dont breed and if you have already breeded how old is she, is she bleeding yet...?
Talk about an idiot raising another human being, that female offspring will grow up to be nothing more than another victim of circumstance.

9\11\2001 was the start of the Revolution and this recession is the buildup to the explosion that will become the violent change brought to the planet via idoits and retards who swallow the koolaid they are given verses those with more common sense.

Go take a physics class and you'll have your answer about falling buildings. Paid experts sell you toothpaste, condoms, birthcontrol, pregnancy tests, food, water, soon to be sunlight, and eventually air, to all the morons with out an education and who lack the will to use their own brain. Stop watching T.V. go hang some people already.

9\11 was created by sub contractors HIRED to demo a few buildings through untraceable contacts.. Happens every day, the best example is the most obvious, Israel supply of Tech, guns, money, and your kidnapped daugthers for their sex slaves.... just check the back of your next milk carton.... duh.. little princess is getting pounded nightly at 9 years old to the highest bidder. Wake up people, get off the short bus and stand up for your rights and overthrow the facist regime that has you by the balls.....

rdm


"Teach the people how to get along with one another because we already know how not to!"

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Ironwood

quote:
Wake up people, get off the short bus and stand up for your rights and overthrow the facist regime that has you by the balls.....


I personally agree with your sentiment and can appreciate your passion, but what exactly do you suggest be done, and before you answer, perhaps more importantly, what exactly are you doing about it?


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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mutnuaq

The public lives a ritualistic life. Alarm wakes you then you eat breakfast, now off to work, lunch , drive home talk to wife and kids about their days, turn on the t.v. eat. sleep.

Think about how you learned to tie your shoes or eat or walk? Repetition. You repeated the same thing everyday slowly trying to get it right. Now it's basic programming and you do it efficiently and easily you just "know" it.Your brain knows things through repetition when you're done being uploaded information you no longer question whether it's accurate or right you just do it because it worked yesterday and the day before. You don't relearn how to walk or eat. You just do it. Same thing applies to every other response mechanism. You know if you're falling down to put your hands out, but you didn't know that at first, babies and kids fall on their faces all the time.

People are really quick to forget how they got to where they are. Once the hard work is done it's exactly like riding a bike. Goes in the back of your head and you can easily retrieve it whenever necessary without thought. They are all on mental vacation awaiting the end of their journeys in life as comfortably as possible.

That part right there is what is being attacked the things you just do without thought cause that's just how it is. People are in a hypnotic semi aware state. They know where they need to be and at what time. Then they enjoy the same things weekly.....wed night lost, friday night go out drinking sat family day, sunday football. Anything "new" that isn't all set up already for you like tourism or something that is challenging to them like learning a new language bothers people cause they can't just cruise control anymore.

Think of when you first learn to drive how cautious you were. Then you slowly stop using your blinkers then you ignore red lights because you can just barely make it across just before the oncoming cars smash into you if they werent already expecting you to run it .Now 5 years pass no accidents so far so you get cocky and just cruise along eatin cheese burgers and playing with the radio doing the same dangerous activity DRIVING KILLS 50 THOUSAND PEOPLE A YEAR. We don't have that thought in our heads when we drive. We completely forget reality and slip into our personal realities in our minds shaped by the media where "it wont happen to me". When people do the same thing over and over again they get used to it and they get overconfident and lazy. That leads to disaterous car crashes and unessesary suffering for mankind.

The same thing applies with obtaining new information you have to show everybody an idea on youtube now just to hold their attention long enough to get the point across.

The point is that they slowly, over time feed you agenda based comedy shows depicting how you should react to this or that situation depending on which character you can identify most with. I hear people all the time passing on informational little tidbits of semi entertaining details like people spend two weeks of their lives at traffic signals as if it's just something they happen to know when it's on a commerical that's part of a massive advertising campaign and everyone already saw that and knows it whether they wanted to or not . I've seen people go Wow that's pretty cool to know even though they've got that info in their heads already. People want to be stupid. They like it. They want to talk about the weather daily. Like it ehfin matters considering most people sit in an office or building all day anyhow. They just want the same conversations cause they already know what to say in response thanks to t.v. .

When you make them think of something new it makes them uncomfortable cause they don't have a preprogrammed response. When you bring up political arguments everyone just reverts back to something they've heard a media personality say. The control is much too deep and the population is far too willing to do much of anything. Alex Jones is "waking people up" but he wakes them up to a reality that is his. Sure he's fighting the info war but he is another side fighting for the same control over your responses. You may agree or disagree with his thoughts and views but it's certain he is fighting for peoples minds just as the other side is. Neither side is about free will. It's all about stimuli and response. I don't know if there is even another way to fight one side in that fight considering the masses are already controlled by certain ways of introducing information so I guess he really has no other choice but by going along with it.However if you listen to his views strictly without knowing anything for yourself "KNOWING" is key not heard or read but KNOW, you've just moved yourself on the other side of the field where as your goal should be to stop playing the crazy game in the first place.

Parents put their trust in schools to raise their kids. School raises workers. Not people. School was first instituted as a place to train soldiers and then later on factory workers. Every time I watch a late night t.v. show it's riddled with insinuations and force you're feelings towards certain subjects without directly stating them.


Bad information is like a virus to a computer. It makes the machine respond in a negative and detrimental manner. If Hitler didn't give the people of germany a "virus" of the mind we wouldn't of had ww2. Hitlers peers were the host infection and they spread it through people as fast as possible until it had control of it's host. The german people.

What's a virus? Information like dna that replicates itself that's detrimental to the host. It's not living but it isn't dead. Conspiracy theories and government cover ups along with advertising campaigns are all viruses. It lives inside of us and through us it reproduces when we spread the information through speech and text. It's just some people aren't even capable somehow...of conceiving of this basic notion. I haven't heard a single person point out how those things do the same thing to your mind as a computer virus does to your computer.

I'm not saying one side is right or wrong but I have no first hand experience with any of this and neither does most of anyone else so you are basically just shuffling around infections from mind to mind provoking unwanted reactions do to the negative stimuli. First step is getting people's free will back. Playing the info wars won't do anything but perpetuate the system of control. All that we can do is hope people wake up before it's too late or hope the NWO will at least prevent any further war since there would only be one governing entity with a gun...at least it has no one to shoot.<other than it's citizens that won't obey them>

I get the image of a merry go round and two guys standing on opposite sides facing each other first one spins it then the other keeps it going far enough to get back to the first guy then he gives it another go and so on. The whole system of information has been corrupted and there is too much disinformation to sift through. Best you can do is keep your eyes open and don't let it happen again because they've basically redacted history and there is nothing we can do about it.


"334jui8"

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Ironwood

Something can always be done about it.

Keeping your eyes open to not let it happen again puts you in no different posistion than the one you speak so negatively of.

Dissinformation, missinformation, propaganda, are dished out instantly and even pre-emptively. Redaction of history is easier to overcome than that of current affairs. Unless you have bothered to sift through the history part, as daunting of a task as it is.

Utilizing mans greatest survival tool of pattern recognition as well as the underestimated intuition and common sense, allows for the best footing your going to get. And a way to properly utilize it is by exposing it to as much varient information as possible. Like exposure to viruses to develop natural immunities. Whereas avoidance actually creates greater succeptibility.

A back to basics approach simplifies things to a degree that make the convolution of the argument evident in its absurdity, likely intentional.

The best back to basics in this context I've seen I'll try to relay here, but given my inability to cut and paste properly on my f'n ps3 that I'm working with, please forgive me.

You just have to go to google video or youtube and search despotism for the encyclopedia brittanica video measuring despotism vs democracy.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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mutnuaq

The republicans picked John Fucking mccain for their nominee obviously they wanted to lose or they wouldn't have picked the most disliked republican.

If we want a third party to come through it would HAVE to be a Christian. It's just a mathematical fact. Second they have to appeal to the dumbass kids that voted for Obama because schools told the kids to vote for him.

It's like a advertising campaign you gotta appeal to as many people as possible as synergisticly as possible. I know this sounds stupid but Sara Palin would appeal to the most people that I can think of now. I don't think shes the one to lead the party based on anything other than the fact that we have an American Idol style voting system now where you just go with the most popular person. I think if she'd follow the voice of the masses on most important issues like STOP THE THEFT AND CORRUPTION AND DESTRUCTION OF OUR CONSTITUTION I'd be happier than I am now with a leader that is forming his own government outside of our traditional government.

Palin would get pretty much all of the Christian Vote. That's key. If liberals would put aside the whole abortion/christian issue her and ron pual would make an unstoppable force.

Ron Paul I think is the only truly honest politicial that actually knows whats going on. When most politicians are in the know they make deals and work for power. Paul is the real deal. He would get all the libertarian and constitutionalists vote just by being the vice pres. Palin is really really well known and All the christians and house wives that don't know much would vote just cause it's her. Alot of women would vote for her just because shes a woman the way blacks voted for Obama just cause he was black.

Shes also pretty attractive especially given her age and the fact that she is a politician. So I think most white males would vote for her over Obama based on that alone. Blacks I think would be about 70% obama and 30% something else or nothing because a good amount of them realize that he isn't looking out for their best interests. I know I'm talking mostly about stupid people and how they would vote but that's where almost the entire majority of voters come from. Also Im almost certain old people would vote for Palin/Paul. That's a massive demographic. I'd take a broken leg to a bullet in the face and that's the choice basically between Obama/biden vs Palin/Paul. Just a theory I'm sure alot of you "hate" palin but That hate is unfounded because the majority of what you know about her is based on slanderous comedy shows on comedy central and nbc. She isn't stupid and she is really likable, at least to average people. If average people like her and can relate to her dumbed down sweet persona she uses then it'll just get more votes in the end. She is obviously very intelligent she just behaves a certain way so as to not alienate her voters.

Ron Paul even just as vice pres would shed light on the corruption that has gone on and put an end to it. If It takes palin as the frontman and Paul as vice president just to get him in the white house I'd go for it.

Oh and forgot of course they would get 100% of the tea party peoples


"334jui8"

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