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Iraqi Rape of Women

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Decius

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Los Angeles, Alta California - May 2, 2004 - (ACN) The release, by CBS News, of the photographs showing the heinous sexual abuse and torture of Iraqi POW's at the notorious Abu Ghraib prison has opened a Pandora's box for the Bush regime. Apparently, the suspended US commander of the prison where the worst abuses took place, Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, has refused to take the fall by herself and has implicated the CIA, Military Intelligence and private US government contractors in the torturing of POW's and in the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.

Brigadier General Janis Karpinski said to the Washington Post that Military Intelligence, rather than the Military Police, dictated the treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. "The prison, and that particular cellblock where the events took place, were under the control of the Military Intelligence command," Brigadier General Karpinski said to the Washington Post Saturday night in a telephone interview from her home in Hilton Head, South Carolina.

Brigadier General Karpinski, who commanded the 800th Military Police Brigade, described a high-pressure Military Intelligence and CIA command that prized successful interrogations. A month before the alleged abuses and rapes occurred, she said, a team of CIA, Military Intelligence officers and private consultants under the employ of the US government came to Abu Ghraib. "Their main and specific mission was to give the interrogators new techniques to get more information from detainees," she said.

Today, new photographs were sent to La Voz de Aztlan from confidential sources depicting the shocking rapes of two Iraqi women by what are purported to be US Military Intelligence personnel and private US mercenaries in military fatigues. It is now known that hundreds of these photographs had been in circulation among the troops in Iraq. The graphic photos were being swapped between the soldiers like baseball cards.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, one Mexican-American soldier told La Voz de Aztlan, "Maybe the officers didn't know what was going on, but everybody else did. I have seen literally hundreds of these types of pictures." Many of the pictures were destroyed last September when the luggage of soldiers was searched as they left Iraq, he said

An investigation, led by Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba, identified two military intelligence officers and two civilian contractors for the Army as key figures in the abuse cases at the Abu Ghraib prison. In an internal report on his findings, Major General Taguba said he suspected that the four were "either directly or indirectly responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib and strongly recommended disciplinary action."

The Taguba report states that "military intelligence interrogators and other U.S. Government Agency interrogators actively requested that Military Police guards set physical and mental conditions for favorable interrogation of witnesses." The report noted that one civilian interrogator, a contractor from a company called CACI International and attached to the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, "clearly knew his instructions" to the Military Police equated to physical and sexual abuse. It is not known whether these instructions included, or led to, the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.








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awakendwraith

I'm not going to read that, and I'm not going to look at the pictures, but I am going to say that any person who would rape someone is what I beleive to be evil and not human.

Those men are not men. And I do NOT think that this incident, or any other incedint that is of "evil" nature, should be taken into consideration when you are trying to show people how bad the war in Iraq is.

The reasons why I am not going to read it is because I can't stomach it. Not because I'm being an ass-hole.


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Decius

Well, you can't attempt to make adequate statements or conclusions with your eyes closed. No one will or should take you seriously.


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Attolia

It hurts so bad. that could be someone's little sister, mother, aunt, cousin, friend, wife. Or me. Who knows what else they did to them, to their kids.


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wormtownandy

I did a google search, and every news site that came up claims that those pictures were from a porno site called "Sex in War" and that they were all fake. Thats not to say that horrible things don't and aren't happening in Iraq, with all of the obviously real prison torture photos. It just seems that if these photos were real that people would be making a lot bigger deal out of it than anyone seems to be. Obviously if the photos are real then all of those soldiers involved deserve a lot worse than anything we could do to them. I just tend to approach this sort of thing with skepticism.


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There was a website online that particularly catered to such pictures of soldiers raping female POWs. It was taken down.

I don't know whether those pictures are real, and I don't think it really matters. If you hear a story about a rape, whether it's real or not it doesn't matter. It's definite that such things have ocurred on a massive scale in Iraq as per witness testimonials.

So its better to assume these are pictures representative of what has ocurred in Iraq with our tax dollars, rather than to question their validity.


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Attolia

Women are raped in every war; you don't need documentation. You don't just wage a war with weapons. Women are raped, diseases are spread, animals are killed, fields are burned.

And even if these pictures were from a porn site, it makes me sick knowing that these are what some men (and women) fantasize. Just sick.


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wormtownandy

Thats true, and infowars.com alone has more than enough videos to prove how bloodthirsty these soldiers can be.
It makes you wonder how much effort it must take on the part of most Americans to remain in a constant state of denial about what is going on over there.


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