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Oh God... Not again.

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2866 Posts / 94M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Oh God... Not again. [+ favourites]

So, as many of you know (or don't know) I was extremely vocal about my opposition towards the war in Iraq. So much so that I had anti-war banners rotating throughout all my sites and went to plenty of useless and hypocritical rallies.

I was so disturbed by the events leading up to the war, and then the entirety of the war, that I made a pact with my weak little heart to cease and desist all political input.

So I stopped watching the news, stopped reading, stopped discussing, and as you can tell, I have absolutely no participation in the political forums on here anymore.

I'm focussed on monetary gain. I'm focussed on building a basis for my life. And in doing so, one of the many things I do is stock analysis.

Now... here's the interesting thing. Although you can begin to adequately predict stock movements in the long term using numerical analysis, there are various things that can happen that will drag the whole market down.... making your analysis correct...but irrelevent anyways.

So, for almost a year and a half now I've been completely uninvolved in the MOTHER FUCKING BULLSHIT that the US does in the middle east.

But what's that?

There's now a potential threat posed by both Osama and a war with Iran.

So, without thinking (Because I'm a fucking idiot) I start researching the probability of such a war with Iran for stock probability only.

Then something happens.

Something I haven't felt... for a while.

It's that vein on my forehead.

Where have you been my little friend?

So it appears the US really wants to disarm Iran.

But as I read more and more, it becomes apparently obvious that they don't want to do so to prevent the possibility of a nuclear strike.

Oh no.

The reason they want to do so is to prevent Iran from having any form of defense at their disposal. What this means is, if Iran gets nuclear weapons, they cannot be attacked.

If Iran gets nuclear weapons, they become an independant nation that doesn't have to kiss ass with anyone.

If Iran gets nuclear weapons, the US can't move in from Iraq and steal their oil.

And, ironically enough, the europeans and especially russians are really trying to find a soliution with the iranians.

The us, on the other hand, is quite adamently opposed to them having ANY nuclear capabilities. The rest of the world is fine with them having a limited capability... because they don't anticipate any form of attack.

So, my vein told me one thing: With all these other fucking countries out there (I use plural because I'm sure there's more than one... but lets say north korea for now) that are just as large of threats as Iran is, why is the US targetting them?

Well, we know why.

But I'm wondering what the powers that be say about it. I mean, the question has to have come up at some point. What is the logical basis behind it?

The reason I ask is that my vein is going to keep pulsating because I know there's some MOTHER FUCKING HOMO REPUBLICAN BULLSHIT answer there, and rather than wonder which ridiculous explanation they have, I guess I'd just ask.

Ahh.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

4026 Posts / 51M
     :   31yrs   :  
Ironwood

Number one, their line is that it is a religiously extremist state with a concrete desire to nuke Israel.

Then Fox News was kind enough to add that Iran could use their oil, and its market fluctuation power, as a form of world economic terrorism.

What amuses and frightens me to no end is when people are talking about Iran's religious desire to end Israel, out of fear of extremist religious ideology running politics and the military. It never seems to occur to them just how and why the state of Israel exists today...

Because extremist religious ideology running politics and militaries decided to attempt to fulfill a biblical prophecy that is a first step to the last world war and the end of the world. The rapture, armaggedon, etc. etc.

And look at all the good that has come of Israel's creation. But oh wait, that anti semetic to think. And anti american and an aid to terrorism for questioning the US governments foreign policy past and present.

Blah blah blah. Dissent is terrorism, tyranny's catch phrase, but too many are too deluded to bother realise they are hearing it.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

2203 Posts / 67M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

http://www.truemajority.org/bensbbs/

On a 2012 forum, someone said that they found evidence that Bush wanted to go to war with both Iraq and Iran before he was even president and him and his cronies were making plans to do so.

The peace house here in oklahoma city has been saying it all along and so has Veterans for peace.

He wants to go to war and if you click on the link above, you'll see that a nuke is not going to save Iran, besides it would take them to long to build it.

Conyers - http://conyersblog.org who has been working harder then anyone to get this man impeached is pretty confident that eventually we will, but is afraid that as soon as Bush sees that he is thru will launch a missle at Iran. As he explained in Vietnam when they new it would be over, they accidently sent a bomb raid to another country, a country next to Vietnam, I can't remember the name of it now,

Anyways, its a real threat - and if it wasn't over nuclear weapons, it would be something else.

Iran doesn't need a nuclear weapon and nobody should have one, and we have WAY to many. We make em because it's profitable, and that's all it comes down to.

But a nuclear war cannot be won. The bombs we have today are 20 times larger then what we droped on Japen. If we dropped one on Iran you can watch Isreal slowly die, but Bush is not a friend of Isreal, he's not a Christian.

He is Hitler reincarnated and he don't give a shit about nobody and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

I know you guys don't believe in God and I do, and it hurts me that God lets this happene and I am being dissapointed, but I will still pray.

March 18, there will be protests all over the world, and if Murtha is right, we'll have to bring our troops home, and I hope it won't be just to send them to Iran.

The congress has the power to stop him and the Justice department has threatoned that if they don't start doing a better job policing things, the justice department will come in and police things - there are things happening, it will be interesting and I hope not ugly.

See Ya.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

2203 Posts / 67M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

The latest:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1724473,00.html


While it is true that Iran is involved in terrorism - we go to war with Iran, we'll just chase back and forth from Iran to Iraq, it would be even worse.

Stupid idea by stupid leaders who believe respect can be forced on others.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

1816 Posts / 67M
     :   56yrs   :  
cturtle

As my last post was very verbose (verbally robust) anti-bush & the perception on Iraq/ Iran confrontation, I will try to be a little quieter with criticism.
Does the US & other nations with nuclear capacities practice the same standard that we would (have in Iraq) impose upon these countries? In the case of Iraq, would we submit ourselves (the US government) to the level of control & scrutiny by the UN as we imposed upon Iraq (Saddam)?
Do we seek equality of rights with other nations or seek to impose our values & interest upon them?
Oh, I (my computer) had a problem finding the website when I submitted the post previously? So I thought I would try again.
I wonder if the War on Iraq was nothing more than an opening move to establish & control the whole area of oil production?


"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

2203 Posts / 67M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

To first question - NO - you know we're too good for that.

For the second paragraph, there could be many reasons why we went to Iraq and that could be one of them.

Have you heard about Harpers March edition, I think they nailed it as to why Bush wanted to go to war in Iraq.

quote:
That President George W. Bush comes to power with the intention of invading Iraq is a fact not open to dispute. Pleased with the image of himself as a military hero, and having spoken, more than once, about seeking revenge on Saddam Hussein for the tyrant's alleged attempt to “kill my Dad,” he appoints to high office in his administration a cadre of warrior intellectuals, chief among them Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld


http://www.harpers.org/TheCaseForImpeachment.html


Bush is just a spoiled kid who never grew up and who thinks the whole world revolves around him, that makes for a dangerous person as president of the worlds most powerful nation.

Air America was suggesting that a president be given a competancy exam before being allowed to run. Some people got upset about that. But we assume that the person we are voting for is qualified, nobody asks if he or she is mentally stable or mature enough, we just assume. Maybe it should be tested to be sure.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

1816 Posts / 67M
     :   56yrs   :  
cturtle

I agree with you but disagree? May be in the terminology? As D stated in the openning page religious fanaticism may be a cause for such actions or are we (they) the justifications of our (their) actions?
As we (they) are many so there are many justications of building nuclear reactors but in truth is not the reason for their being to fuel bombs that they may Lord over others?


"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

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