Constructive Criticism towards CC Members

Most definitely. Not only what they need, but what they need AND are willing to accept.

Often you have to begin at making them thirsty for that knowledge first because most people are so used to starving that they have no idea that they're even hungry.

Once they recognize hunger, then comes the task of creating a diet.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

What if the person gets too much and gets scared away? How do you stop that? How do you know how far is too far?

"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

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What if the person gets too much and gets scared away? How do you stop that? How do you know how far is too far?

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"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Listen.

Both of you. All of you.

Care. Because without careing, and without moving, without wanting, and without love, without hope, without.... care, we trully are spinning in a whell. And we can get rid of it.

Decius- I am only bringing your attention to me. That's all. Please, think for a few seconds that i could be telling the truth. That I don't want to be better, just ok. What then? Then you find someone who honestly understands you. And you get the chance to watch something grow.

Chippy- Whether you like it or not, I care about you like no one else ever has. I am sorry I am not your father, and I am sorry I am not your girl freind, but I am real. And that should be enough.

"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

I cant say I've read all these threads; I havn't got the time or energy.

Anyway. Developing from a point which lies somewhere in here on compassion lets see what I concluded.

I watched a tv programme on lions in the Masaii Mara of Africa. One small lion cub had strayed from the pack and had been clearly attacked overnight. Upon finding th ecub the next day one of the females smelt the scent of this cub and clearly realised it was injured badly. Both this female and another stayed with the cub. Encouraging it. Clearly torn between helping the cub and realising the pack had to move on. Eventually the female realised the lion cub was beyond help and left it on its own.

Now we can make this as complicated as you like; bring all moral issues to the table, the difference between humans and animals. I tell you what I 'felt' from this.

I realised that there was compassion and at the same time realisation that things are more important for the betterment of the group as a whole. What was done seemed natural and perfectly rational.

Natures bites like a bitch sometimes. Thats what I said before. And I said compassion can go so far. But, in addition, I now realise that we humans are so confused we forget the blinding obvious. And whats blindigly obvious from all these posts is that man is just a political animal. And in many ways; that just confuses matters for those who dont use language as a tool to express how they feel. And not the other way around!

PS you may realise I havnt referenced to any names brcause my expressions are for the general; as is my post.

""No words""

I don't see the relevency in any way.

We are too compassionate? We should let people suffer more?

You should apply some sort of conclusion so that people understand what your point is and how it is relevent. It is a realization of some magnitude for you, but if it is not relevent there is little point sharing it here.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."
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Damn. I wrote a reply to this then got logged out. To cut short, the lion thing was irrelevent..just a link I stumbled on to this thread and it. Anyway my conclusion was you do best by judging yourself and not others.

""No words""

this has probably already been done but im afraid ive gotta go for awakened here.
his description of decius fits himself like a glove. i have yet to find any whose hubris and egoism rivals his own, or who shows less capability at normal social interaction. he attacks the posts of others under the banner of logic, while failing to notice that the other side has an equally logical arguement, if not more so on occasions. to quote one of my friends "i would love to see your point of view, but i cant get my head that far up my own ass"

"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

Wonderful. So. I know I have ego problems. But honestly, give me an example where somone on this site was more right than me, that isn't the all knowing Decius. But there's a catch, I have to not admit I was wrong. Because by admiting defeat, my ego is flushed.

Please. Show me an argument where i was less right than someone else. Even more, my ego is intact only because I am so rarely proven wrong. Yes, I do argue with poepel that aren't exactly the brightest in the bunch, but I will take anyone on.

Give me examples to defend against.

"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

Etherealmeekle is too idealistic. I think Jacker is the exact opposite of ethereal, or close to being the exact opposite.

"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

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Show me an argument where i was less right than someone else

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Etherealmeekle is too idealistic. I think Jacker is the exact opposite of ethereal, or close to being the exact opposite.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."

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It doesn't make you right if you win an arguement. It's more the better persuader. A better arguer can win with a weaker arguement. I don't think awakend has ego problems. I think awakend's a bit of a suck up.

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"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

I've though long an hard. Put some of these efforts into getting sex. Just use a condom.

""No words""

"too idealistic."??? No such thing.

"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

Too idealistic- too rigid. There's a difference between sticking to your values and principles and closing yourself off to everything else besides your values.

I'm not just criticizing though. It's not like I'm not an idealist. I'm having trouble balancing the ideal and the real, so I don't blame anyone for wanting to stick to one or the other.

"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"