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HIghly dissatsified with sexual stimulus

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2841 Posts / 92M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

HIghly dissatsified with sexual stimulus [+ favourites]

The stimulus that is necessary for a growing boy like me is provided in dissatisfying ways.

All I am provided with are hoes who contradict themselves by acting like they dont need it, whereas almost everything they do is in an effort to win it over.

Other than the bitchy hoe, what other sexual stimulus are males provided in this society? I've been innundated with it so much in the last 5 years that I have no idea what I find attractive anymore.

But it sure isn't bitchy hoes.

anymore.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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2959 Posts / 60M
     :   24yrs   :  
Wyote

one of the primary struggles for people in their twenties is seeking out and understanding the intricacies of intimacy. when searching for an appropriate mate, it is neccisary for a person to look within themselves in order to decide what they desire. many people are incappable of even deciphering between a "bitchy hoe" and a mate with strong resolve and morality. admittidly, i have struggled to see the difference at times myself.

aside from this, it is very hard for people to seperate themselves from outside influences telling them what is attractive. once you fully accomplish this, you will find mates that provide much more satisfying stimuli.

as with most things, when you put in more effort you get more out of it. in understanding your own needs as a person, you will be able to seek out an appropriate mate with qualities that are satisfying on multiple levels.

*i have yet to find a woman who is not a bitchy hoe in the department of intimacy.


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941 Posts / 47M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

Well I’m darn tired of not knowing how to be sexual from people other than the models of bitchy hoes I see on tv and around me. If there were a variety of models of sexuality for both men and women, we’d be happier. But as usual, every society in its time has a norm that’s glorified, so its always tough to find alternatives.

Decius, sounds like you had too much of something and are now sick of it. Maybe the solution was to take it in small amounts from the beginning, but what do I know.


"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

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2841 Posts / 92M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Who wants hoes even in small amounts? It's all bullshit anyways. Sexuality is instinctual. I doubt our ancestors wore shitty skirts and got drunk just so they could get over insecurities long enough to forget how much they hated their lives.

There's something pure about sexuality that is opposed everytime I am forced to worship Jessica Simpson, and that's why men go on murderous rampages. It's because they fuck their brains out thinking their orgasming but doing it to something as unnatural as Britney Spears seems just as instinctually satisfying as orgasming to fucking a lego block.

So, imagine being forced to find lego blocks attractive. That is correct. Murderous rampages.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

941 Posts / 47M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

But how do you avoid being conditioned? I'm sick of having models for beauty, but I know that I tend to think of people that look like the current ideal as beautiful. I have to psychologically work to convince myself that a girl with skinny lips and fat cheecks is beautiful.

So what do we do? Should I continue psychologically expanding my notion of beauty? Will it work?

Is it possible to ever have a "pure" sexuality (like that of our ancestors who did not have shoe fetishes and playboy magazines)?


"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"
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856 Posts / 40M
     :   21yrs   :  
Jacker_Jones

I want hoes in small amounts. Mostly because they make good stories. You got to admit funny shit happens when it all goes down. Some girls just want a good time I can respect that. But, it's the ones that want or try to get both relationship and a good time that are the real bitches. Down with money leaching trophy wives. But, hey you could say that's what 50% of marriage is about.

As for convincing yourself you're beautiful it's just because you're insecure. You truly don't believe beauty is on the inside and have lost faith in others. But, I swear guys look for pretty girls and that's the initial step but they only keep around the ones they actually like or are afraid of. You may think that pretty girls have it easy with all these guys chasing them or whatever. But, often they are used and often they get dumped because they pull out the bitchy personality. I really don't think girls try to be bitches but some girls bitch because it's the only way they know how to get what they want.


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443 Posts / 45M
     :   23yrs   :  
Vortex271

Well, as a guy, I have to say that I appreciate superficial beauty, but when it comes to the mentality of beauty and the conditioning society puts us through whenever we see a billboard of Jessica Alba or Tyra Banks, it sickens me when I see people trying to imitate the images.
As for hoes in small amounts, I'm gonna say no to that, I've dated a hoe, and I got no stories out of that, merely a flattened bank account and an introduction to the great web of hushed rumors and hidden whispers. Women who go around bitching simply reinforce my viewpoint: In pursuing beauty, you lose individuality, and you become partially what you imitate: posterboard, paint, or ink, not personality. And sexuality, though it is instinctual, is often used nowadays as a method of ensnarement for one to get what one wants.
I'm honestly sick of it. Personally, I'm not engaging in anything that may be held over my head later until I've found her.


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140 Posts / 46M
     :   24yrs   :  
wholly

first, never date a ho. it is probably best to not even interact with them without the aid of intoxicating substances. as for dissatisfaction with current sexual stimulus, id have to agree. cookie cutter culture spliced with the culture of materialism has created a generation of females that i cannot relate to nor care for. but you gotta fuck, right?


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2841 Posts / 92M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

That appears to be the problem.

We do, in fact, have to fuck.


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1687 Posts / 38M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

hmm.. let me see if i get this right..
you are tired of being forced into accepting that she (the bithcy hoe) is actually what you want?
ok.
heres something that may come to a shocker to you jacker-
i am not turned on by britny spears. i am not turned on by short skirts. i am not turned on by the typical "porn couple." big tits and bronze ass cheeks do not turn me on. im not even talking on a physical, i got a hard on, kinda way. i dont get anything out of it what so ever.

decius is right. i do get turned on by things that are led by my instincts. like smell. and touching. and the way a girl sounds. not just when "touching" but a feminine voice. and singing. i am turned on, at a purely physical state, by girls that look like they belong in a fantasy world. like, elves kinda. well, thats a little fruity, and the words dont exactly convey what im trying to get across, but read between the lines and you'll know what im trying to say.
sorry about that.
i am turned on by a girl when she figures something out. something big.. or small. i am turned on by thinking because it is my nature.
jacker is turned on by bitchy hoes, in small amounts, because he is a bitchy hoe. slightly. and you fucking know it, so dont deny it.

i do not appreciate superficial beauty in the least bit. no. thats a lie. i do not apreciate superficial beauty. i do on the other hand, see a superficial beauty in people once i have found something that turns me on about them.
and just for reference, those are not the only things that turn me on.
but most generally, natural things turn me on.
i like girls that play video games, because, to me, games are like a second nature.
and stuff like that.

..so, decius.. whats your nature?

is it to fuck? or find somethign that means a little more. or something a little more simple? i dont know that...
but there is your next qeustion.. i think. and if you already know that, which i think you do, then the only logical conclusion is that you have given up on finding a girl taht is in your nature. and if that is the case you have two options.
fuck the bitchy hoes and be ok with settling, all the while keeping an open eye for the "right girl."
or stop fucking the bitchy hoes and keep looking.
because giving up is something that i do not consider an option for you.

hope that helped.

and, as always, i am open to any and all criticisim. i have still been waiting for a good judgment. and it still hasnt happend.


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2841 Posts / 92M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Jacker isn't a hoe. (but he is definitely conditioned into wanting them)

My point is that no one wants a bitchy hoe... and even bitchy hoes don't want to be bitchy hoes, because there is no such thing as a bitchy hoe.

All "bitchy hoes" actually have bad home lives or some form of insecurity that seeps into the rest of their lives and is manifested in great unhappiness.

But with all due respect... you're still young and I don't mean this in the sense that you aren't intelligent, but in the sense that you haven't experience the same media and social constructs that everyone else has.

I'm a good example of someone who has grown up on the media, which is why although I instinctually am similar to you I am drawn in a completely different direction.

Which brings us to the point of the thread: Desiring hoes isn't a choice, nor is the desire to be a hoe. It's conditioned, and there's a big difference.

Which is why one cannot be critical of those that are conditioned. One can only be critical of those that refuse to acknowledge that they are conditioned.

I accept that I am, and am trying to reverse it... but it is very difficult as everywhere I look or stumble or fall everything tries to push me in the opposite direction.

Which is why I live in my room. With the shades closed.


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1687 Posts / 38M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith



tell me, are you easily tempted?
i know that i have not fully been "out there", but you'd be surprised.
its sucks that you were "molded" into liking that kinda stuff, but hiding is not the answer. thats just pretending the problem isnt there.
(kinda like the "christian" )


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     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

He's not pretending the problem isn't there. He's seeking refuge until the storm dies out and it's safer to go out without the harm of being badly injured.


"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

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2959 Posts / 60M
     :   24yrs   :  
Wyote

why can we not blame every single person for their varying levels of being conditioned? every woman is a bitchy hoe, every man is a selfish prick. does blame hinder our ability to have compassion for them and empathize with them? i blame everyone, including myself, all the time. i dont waste energy on blame, but i recognize that everyone is messed up somehow. i may be percieved as an asshole, but every guy is an asshole anyway. if we simply accept that everyone is and always will be deficient in some way, it levels the field. then we can move forward and better ourselves as a whole.

perhaps this makes me some sort of chickenshit... not sure.


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941 Posts / 47M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

What you're saying makes sense. We need to take a more active stance. Sure, we've been conditioned, so what are we going to do about it? But it's also necessary to take the passive side since we were defenseless when we were being conditioned as children and young adults.


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