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HIghly dissatsified with sexual stimulus

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3001 Posts / 62M
     :   25yrs   :  
Wyote

all im saying is, we should learn to appreciate the diversity that results from the conditioning in our defenseless stages. the real harsh blame should be put toward people who make no attempt at going against their conditioning. i think most people attempt to go against it, but some are better at it or understand it on a deeper level. should we blame people for just sucking at going against their conditioning? no, we should help them.


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944 Posts / 49M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

And, again, how? How do you go against conditioning that has been written in to you that it's become instinctual almost?


"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

1687 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

by trying. by giving it everything you have.
so un-often do people do that.
tell me, how hard to you think you have honestly tried? i do not see how temptation can actually win. all you have to do is not do it. its that easy.
maybe im missing something, but it should be that hard.


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856 Posts / 42M
     :   21yrs   :  
Jacker_Jones

Yeah sometimes I can be a bit bitchy but honestly who isn't. People always complain every now and then. It's simple in theory to not give in to temptation but once it's played out in real life it's difficult.


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1309 Posts / 42M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

going against conditioning that deep is hard, because often you dont even know it is there. you think you have your own opinion of what is attractive, but there will be some conditioning hiding in there. as for models, someone had to find them attractive for them to become models, so they weren't conditioned.

i would also agree with awakened about not being particularly bothered by the stereotypical "pretty" (slutty) type. provocative clothing is fine, but only when you are actually trying to provoke a reaction, not just wearing it as everyday clothing.

as for what is sexually attractive, we look for basic things biologically, we want a healthy partner so that our offspring will be healthy. hence clear skin, even features, muscular physique, a person at or apporaching full physical health, the way that we would function best. very few people find the super skinny models attractive, or a very overweight person attractive, because they are not the right shape for a human, much like we are not attract to those who are disfigured.

what is wrong with britney spears or jessica alba? they are attractive, even featured, clear skin, physical fitness, the basic things required to give the best chance of healthy offspring.
all the rest of it is just personal preference, and then you get on to the deeper thing of personality. that is where the bitchy hoes lose out.


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

210 Posts / 36M
     :   20yrs   :  
Ancient

Ill have to say that if a "bitchy hoe" were to strip necked and rub up against me sure there would be physical stimuli to my organs. But I've done my best to seperate my consciousness from the rest of my mind. All I can really say is what I've experienced in this situation. Models in victoria secret... sure when I'm in the mood they can be attractive... hell even that souless bitch Hilton can be attractive if I feel I need a fix. But when I'm walking around everyday those girls are actually turn offs. Girls that wear too much make-up and are ashamed of themselves are kinda sad. My gf kept getting embarrased of me looking at her last time we did it. Idk why but I just was happy to be with her and to be sharring it with her. I suppose much like taking a shit behind closed doors we are some what ashamed of our humanity.

Did I hit the nail on the head or was I off topic here?


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757 Posts / 41M
     :   19yrs   :  
MugenNoKarayami

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That appears to be the problem.

We do, in fact, have to fuck.



lmao , I'm sorry, but it's early and Just the way I imagine him saying that makes me literally 'lol'. but on a slightly more serious note, It's hard to say because I personally like the typically beautiful blonde hair blue eyes because of childhood events... but I would definitely not date a damn hoe. I don't care how much they think they can seduce me, that shit isn't going down if that's the only thing they can do to get wants and needs.


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944 Posts / 49M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

Is it possible that we're dissatisfied because our perceptions of sexuality and beauty are too narrow?


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1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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Is it possible that we're dissatisfied because our perceptions of sexuality and beauty are too narrow?


This is unlikely, because if our perceptions were so narrow we would not be aware of any alternatives and therefore not be dissatisfied. Many people are satisfied with the current perceptions because they cannot think past what the media says


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944 Posts / 49M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

quote:
Many people are satisfied with the current perceptions because they cannot think past what the media says

And how would we do that?


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1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

By making up your own mind. Do you always believe everything you hear? Why is it that the media is the only source that few people think to question? If a guy on the street told you what beauty was you would ignore him, but if the media said the same thing then you would accept it.


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2866 Posts / 94M
     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

We live in a media generation, bigot. You swim in media, you eat it, swallow it, digest it. It gets absorbed. Choice (at a young age) is literally impossible, and difficult at an older age. It's quite similar to the reasons people become assanine believers in creationism.

And I pray you ignore what the dillusional bigot says; No one is satisfied with the current perceptions.

People are as satisfied of being bonded by what the media feeds us as Christians are by what the bigotted bible feeds them.

Do they think they're happy?

Yes.

Are they happy?

Fuck, no.

Are they insecure?

Yes.

Have they found something that pacifies their insecurity?

Yes.

Does this cost them anything?

Yes.

Do they pay it willingly?

You bet.

So we're all to some degree (and some more than others) prostitutes. We trade our morality for self-confidence, and whore ourselves for this.

And the reason I started this thread is that I have chosen not to whore myself anymore. However, everywhere I look, even though I don't want to attach my sexuality to insecurity, there is nothing adequate to stimulate myself with. And so, in a sense, living in a western society I am somewhat forced into submission.

Similar to in the old days if you lived in a Christian town. Although they were a little harsher towards non-prostitutes... right meekle?


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Decius

quote:
Choice (at a young age) is literally impossible, and difficult at an older age.
Fag.


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1347 Posts / 42M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Choice is not as difficult as it is made out to be, media is simply a bully. We only listen to it because it is big and if we try to ignore it we are made to look like fools.


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944 Posts / 49M
     :   21yrs   :  
Attolia

It's not just a bully. It is so threaded into our lives, we can not escape it.


"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

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