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Human relationship with the 'Higher Power'

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MugenNoKarayami

Sorry if this is no were near right but doesn't this sound a lot like Scientology? Idk just a thought because I was actually skimming around the net and came across that. It sounds a lot like what is being discussed here. ^o^;;


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Ancient

Yes you empathize with it more. But that's not what I was refering to.


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awakendwraith

ok. i get it now.

as far as scientology goes, thats a fucking ridiculous religion, just like every other religion. first of all, it says that it will never betray you unless you betray it. directly before stating this, they say that too many time has man been betrayed and that is why he is always feeling bad.
im not going to go into it, its not worth it.
heres the site i readhttp://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/index.html

thats not what we aer talking about. that is a study of the path. the "science" path. the science path is not the thinking path. it is the path of knowing.
my path, the thinking path, i think at least is about understanding. and there is a difference.


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Decius

Ancient: You are unable to empathize enough. I do not say this to insult you but to give you insight. I say this because I empathize with you yet I am certain you do not empathize with me. Because when you empathize, you do not pretend. You actually become the object you are empathizing with. The more you know about it, the more you become it. Your consciousness actually alters itself.

It is philosophically sound to acknowledge that all we have is perception. If all we have is perception, then if we alter our methods of intaking perception, we can in fact be anything we wish to be.


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Ancient

No decius your wrong. Plain and simple because you must know about your subject... which means your mind must visualize. Main poin there is YOUR mind. You are experiencing something much simpler than what I am refering to. I understand what you mean about it but you treat it like its the last step. Putting yourself in some one elses shoes isn't what I'm talking about. As your describing it the more we know about peoples lifes in poor 3rd world countries the more we will "be" them. However your describing a far more common and traditional idea. I'm refering to the boundaries of my mind. The actual skull itself binding me to a singular simplistic yet living consciousness.

"The more you know about it, the more you become it." It's the more you know about it, the more you sympathize with it. Empathize means you've gone through it and understand. Sure one can gain a bit of knowledge from others without first hand experience.

"Self-awareness in its primary stages makes one feel alienated and seperate from people (as Ancient said), however, this is only the initial stage." Please do not confuse your understanding of what I said for what I meant.


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Ancient

I mean it seems to me all your describing is seeing the world through some one elses eyes...


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awakendwraith

decius- you can not be the rock. thats not possible. much like you do not know if the blue i see is the blue you see. you can "think/empathize" all you want, and get as "close" as you want, but you will never "be" the rock because you do not KNOW what it is like to "be" the rock.

as said, you cannot KNOW what he is thinking. you can have a really good idea, and probably be right for that matter, but you do not KNOW it.

i hope that helps. if not, tell me off. im looking for some good judgment.


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Decius

To state that something is impossible because one feel unable to see how it is done is erroneous thinking. The world does not operate based on your limitations.

It is possible because I have proven it using logical probability. It is unnecesary to state that humans are able to project their consciousness into states that extend beyond (or beneath) the consciousness of being a human.

And, in respect to this thread, once someone is able to experience this they begin to understand their relationship to the higher power.

Sympathizing with poor people based on TV shows is different, Ancient, because you attempt to understand their position from the safety of your own position. It does not cross the threshold where you, yourself place yourself in the position of a poor person.


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MugenNoKarayami

blahhh, my bad. I just did a quick dictionary search online of scientology and must have misinterpreted the definition ^___^;


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