Chances are high when it comes to rape

Chances are high when it comes to rape [+ favourites]

A study found 60% of Canadian university-aged males said they would commit sexual assault if they were certain they wouldn’t get caught.

1 in 4 women are at the risk of rape or attempted rape in her lifetime.

1 in 8 women will be sexually assaulted while attending college or university.
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I could understand the statistics concerning college students since sex is a part of college culture, but that still doesn't stop me from freaking out. I am REALLy disturbed by this.

"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

Do you believe everything you read?

"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."

My issue is why do you think women aren't constantly calling the police? I think that it can be an instinctual thing to rape... some women though on the higher levels are hurt.. deep down are ok with it. Just a thought.

"Dark and silent and complete."

slightly off track i know, but we are descended from apes. My sister was watching a program on chimps, and i was interested in the way that they treat their women. for them, rape is part of life, if you watch human society we have slowly progressed from that stage. the apes found a fertile female, and fought over her and had their way with her, though the one how won the fight would stop others getting at her. humans formalised this into marriage, a mans wife was his possesion, and his daughters were his to give to another man. but they would protect their own wives and daughters from other men they did not give their permission to. this has slowly developed into the way society runs now, with women counted as equals, and having the right to refuse a man etc.

it seems to me, that some of our basic way of looking at women, has not changed, it is only the social construct at the forefront of our minds that controls us. it may also explain both the male and female responses to rape.

"I tried coding in cocoa but it ran between the keys and shorted my pc"

Women also claim rape for outside reasons. Girls often will call rape if they feel used. Some do it for money, just look at Kobe. Others do it because they want attention. Some were in a different state of mind(intoxication) and during that state they really did want to have sex. Women often have the tendency to lie to themselves to make things true. Some would rather have felt they had gotten raped than admit that the following had actually happened.

"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."

I find that very unamusing Jacker. Check your facts next time. Perhaps you don't know quite as much about women as you would like to think you do. Let's not use rumor-has-it's on this type of subject. The FACT (statisticly) is that every two and a half minutes in America, someone, male or female, is sexually assaulted. More significant to the nature of this thread, 1 in 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape. 44% of which are under the age of 18. That is disregarding the number of victims PROVEN to be false. You can't use biased opinion to argue with proven statistics - the opinion has already been taken into account.

"In the beginning, night was memory was water, and in the cool aquamarine depths dreams swam freely."

Here's something else to think about- could these percentages be norms throughout the world? Or is it dependant on the cultural attitudes alone?

Here's something else to debate- "I'd rather be a second wife than a mistress." I read this quote of somewhere.

"How can we be just in a world without mercy and merciful in a world without justice?"

Lets try to drive feminist propaganda out of this discusson.

In doing so, we accept certain facts:

1. The definition of "rape" is highly vague. What rough sex is to one person is rape to another. What being manipulated legitimately to one person is rape to another. What prostitution is to one person is rape to another.

2. Being raped is an attractive state of mind for women. Women are more prone to self-victimization than men and as a result would find it much easier to believe they were raped than accepting that they are sluts.

3. Is it rape it a woman says yes, yes, yes, then no just as the man is about to orgasm? Most people suffer temporary insanity the moment they orgasm (or are about to) so can a man be held liable for such "rape"?

4. Should women who put themselves at unnecessary risk have the same rights to claim rape as those who took precautions and were still raped? A college student who gets hammered and goes over to a frat boy's house, smokes weed, and disrobes and begins to have sex with him and then mutters "no" just as he orgasms put herself in a less than protected situation. Does she have the same right as a woman who is held at knifepoint in the safety of her house by a thief?

The statistic of rape is grossly overexaggerated and is used to create a dramatic response of people, whereas the number of women who are violently raped is probably much, much lower. However, we view rape as a violent word whereas a majority of rapes occur by men who know the women personally. In such circumstances, violence isn't as likely as situational manipulation.

Men don't say they would rape women. THey say if a woman was passed out in their bed would they consider taking advantage of her. That's quite different than what we consider to be "Rape", but is still categorized as rape.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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The definition of "rape" is highly vague. What rough sex is to one person is rape to another. What being manipulated legitimately to one person is rape to another. What prostitution is to one person is rape to another.

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Should women who put themselves at unnecessary risk have the same rights to claim rape as those who took precautions and were still raped?

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However, we view rape as a violent word whereas a majority of rapes occur by men who know the women personally. In such circumstances, violence isn't as likely as situational manipulation.

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Men don't say they would rape women. THey say if a woman was passed out in their bed would they consider taking advantage of her. That's quite different than what we consider to be "Rape", but is still categorized as rape.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

ill agree with etheral on quite a lot of that. but with the case of putting yourself in danger, if you read decius's example, id say that the hammered girl has a lot less right to cry rape. chances are that she said yes, but just regretted it in the morning. thats not rape, thats 100% her own fault.

"I tried coding in cocoa but it ran between the keys and shorted my pc"

Statistics are the most under rated form of proving means. All surveys, calculations, tallies cost money. When they put people in charge of such organizations they run it like a business. For instance a feminism group gets a study that finds that rape is on the increase in Ontario. That group will now get more funding to help raise awareness of rape in the community. So obviously they will embellish the truth as much as possible for the bigger the problem the bigger the paycheck.

Also do you really think they go as in depth as they claim they do. In order for them to do it the survey would have to be around 100 questions. They also would have to go through each case individually and examine each person psychologically. They either surveyed a small group of people or this is like a multi billion dollar survey.

"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."

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Rape is non-consensual sex. That's not a complicated definition.

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"I love to see people struggling for their purpose in life..."

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chances are that she said yes, but just regretted it in the morning. thats not rape, thats 100% her own fault.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

these are just thoughts on the subject.

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1 in 4 women are at the risk of rape or attempted rape in her lifetime.

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My issue is why do you think women aren't constantly calling the police? I think that it can be an instinctual thing to rape... some women though on the higher levels are hurt.. deep down are ok with it. Just a thought.

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it seems to me, that some of our basic way of looking at women, has not changed, it is only the social construct at the forefront of our minds that controls us. it may also explain both the male and female responses to rape

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Some do it for money, just look at Kobe

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Some were in a different state of mind(intoxication) and during that state they really did want to have sex

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sexually assaulted.

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The definition of "rape" is highly vague

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Being raped is an attractive state of mind for women

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Is it rape it a woman says yes, yes, yes, then no just as the man is about to orgasm? Most people suffer temporary insanity the moment they orgasm (or are about to) so can a man be held liable for such "rape"?

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Should women who put themselves at unnecessary risk have the same rights to claim rape as those who took precautions and were still raped?

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The statistic of rape is grossly overexaggerated

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THey say if a woman was passed out in their bed would they consider taking advantage of her

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Does emotional violence not count?

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A hammered person cannot consent. Therefore it doesn't matter what she said because clearly she was not in her right mind.

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"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

My wife tells me that there is a new trend in middle school called knuckle crushing. A girl will put her fist down on a table and a boy will push down on her elbow crushing her knuckles until they bleed, and this is supposed to be cool.

Something is very wrong when hurting another person is cool. The boy hurts the girl, the girl lets him and its cool.

I somehow stumbled into the twilight zone.

You want to hear something really ugly - In Darfur there are only women and children left and they are raped.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sudan/story/0,14658,1689172,00.html

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."