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Popculture glamourizing the Army

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Decius

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Does this seem wrong to anyone else?

I just saw this show monster garage where at the end they crushed a delorian using army gear and soldiers cheering at the camera.

It seems wrong that they glamourize the army because it blurs the fact that soldiers exist to kill people. So, it's a manipulative way of making young people think, in essence, that killing people is cool.

There it is. That's why it's wrong. It's a form of glamourizing killing and violence.


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awakendwraith

but the troops are there to "keep the peace" not kill people. if killing must be done, so be it.


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Decius

That is a false facade. Politicians are supposed to keep the peace. Soldiers exist to kill once peace is not kept. They do not exist to keep the peace, because they are trained as (and in) weapons more than they are in solving diplomatic dissagreements.

Soldiers would not be glamourized if they didn't wear the uniforms that represent "tough killing machines".

Hence, no matter how the government spins it, soldiers are made to kill. Glamourizing that glamourizes killing.


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Wyote

troops go to boot camp, not peace camp.

people have been so heavily marketed into thinking that being a soldier is cool and patriotic and for a good cause. they kill people, they are taught to kill people, they serve to kill people. its a simple fact that people try so hard to justify in all different ways.


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Jacker_Jones

Just because someone is taught to kill people doesn't mean that they should. Bottom line is the soldiers kill from government pressure. Really their just government goons.

I find it interesting how police officers are also trained to kill but if they killed for the same reason as soldiers how the penalties would differ.

I like how martial arts handles this. Only kill in self- defense. Maybe this is an alternative option.


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Wyote

police officers are not trained to specifically kill, they are trained to injure/incapacitate. it is the option of the officer to kill in situations that they deem it neccisary however. the army, special forces, SWAT ect are taught to specifically kill. they are taught to kill in order to use the ability to kill.


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Attolia

The millitary is one thing that makes a country strong. If you want men to join the millitary, you have to glamorize it. IF yo u don't, you don't have enough people joining, and the country reamins weak and under the control of stronger countries. World politics suck.


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summit

Yet the problem is: choice
The need to promote people to join is usually implemented through propaganda. It is far better to promote it through well informed/knowledged choice rather than brainwashing people to foolishly and ignorantly think that fighting is somewhat 'cool'. The reality of the armies motives (which is indeed to kill) is clouded through this promotion propaganda.

A military advocates fear and insecurity for all. Not this 'peace' and 'freedom' bullshit...thats just propaganda. This could be considered as an actual weakness rather than a strength. Blame the politics.


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Attolia

But isn't it more profitable for politicians to rule people in fear than rule conscientious people?


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summit

Unfortunately political systems are always operated on propaganda power. Most politicians foolishly seek profit (in the short term) through propaganda. To promote fear, is to have power. But power is not always profitable. Power can be disasterous (as we all know from military history). No major war will ever be profitable. Killing is never just. Killing is never profitable. In the long term, if political systems were operated on pacifist power, then profit would thrive. That means profit comes from peace and freedom. Militaries are not pacifistically run.


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Jacker_Jones

Police officers have less training towards killing than someone in the military but obviously more than the average person. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't most swat members police officers by day and when the special unit is needed they get paged.

Economy is what makes the nation strong not military. When Japan struck Pearl Harbor they had much more military power than the United States (especially after). But the overwhelming economy of the United States prospered.

I don't really care that they perceive military as cool but I'm more alarmed at the fact they're perceived as heroes. WW2 veterans are heroes not someone fighting for questionable causes.


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Decius

Countries are not strong by their military in any way shape or form. The world is run by money. Wars begin and end because of money.


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awakendwraith

quote:
Countries are not strong by their military in any way shape or form. The world is run by money. Wars begin and end because of money.


so your saying that a country with one million troops is less capable than a country with one million dollars? there is not one certain thing that a country can be considered strong by.it is a combination of many things. sure, you need money to run the army. but with out an army, all of your strength, regardless if it is money, or peacekeeping, is useless. hitler's army did not have a lot of money. they took over europe.


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Decius

The 1930s and 40s were quite different than the present.

No country is self-reliant anymore. Every economy relies on another country for survival. The country with a million dollars will control the country with an army.

Money is everything.


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Jacker_Jones

How do you think the country got its million troops?


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