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Why I don't preach anymore

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     :   29yrs   :  
kinison

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With enough experience and effort, one learns the ability to take information from the other person and absorb it as true pure information without filtering it. Summit's post is not relevent because I am speaking only of those that are able to do that.

Decius: ??. I don't buy it Decius. thats nonsense bs. Now your just Gobbledygooking. You haven't made any reference to that I was correcting your observation. Your either ignoring or you haven't read Summit's post correctly. Or maybe you have realised that you misinterpreted his post, and that he is correct. Summit's arguement is that opinions do differ between all (and including preachers a-z) because they come from different contexts. Summit's post is valid (and well thought out), because it indicates that preacherA obtains different information from that of preacherB. This is what an openminded intellect is aware of. To be caught up in all of quasi-logical probability, ignores the subjective point of view.


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     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Yeah, thanks for re-posting what you said. I read it the first time, and you wasted my time the second time. You don't seem to understand my post, so I won't bother trying to hard. Let me simplify:

Preacher A was raped as a child, and therefore thinks sex is bad.

Preacher B was raped as a child, but received therapy and sees that good sex is good, and bad sex is bad.

Their opinions differ because they come from different places, but Preacher B can help Preacher A by providing him or her with relevent information.

In the end, it is hoped that both preacher A and B will understand that sex is good when it is good, and bad when it is bad.

If they fail to do so, it is because Preacher A is closed minded, or B is not good at communicating.

In either case, it is the weakness of the human that resulted in two alternate opinions, not the "subjectivity" of truth, whatever that is.

Anyways, it is apparent you have no idea what you're talking about which is why your second response was assanine compared to your first. Musta planned that first one for a while, eh? Worded it carefully?

Tool, this isn't a popularity contest. Go home.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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     :   22yrs   :  
summit

your funny. This is not a sarcasm contest however. Your whole last post, although is assumed true, you have digressed. You have provided new material into the discussion. Why? because you misinterpreted the situation at hand. All I was saying was that opinions do differ between all (and including preachers a-z) because they come from different contexts. Which indeed you now admit you agree on. Simple as that.


"The summit is just a halfway point"

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     :   28yrs   :  
Decius



Are you saying your whole point was that people from different experiences will have different opinions?

Whoah. Thanks for that update big guy.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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     :   22yrs   :  
summit

Yes that is simply what I was saying. It was important to note that because pretty much all religious problems occur with two conflicting beliefs. That many preachers assume they are right over the other. If people could understand that our beliefs, truths, ideas and knowledge are contextually specific, then confusion would settle more. Its that simple.


"The summit is just a halfway point"

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Decius

So, to extend your point, we're all different but if we believed the same things we'd get along a lot better?

Holy smokes!

It sounded like you thought people would differ in opinion no matter what because all opinions are correct. I'm glad we cleared that up.

So Summit now supports my point that if one is able to take into account the subjectivity of human experience, their information will be compatible will everyone else.

Which means, in the search for a universal truth, welcommed preaching is a very useful and necessary step for us as humans.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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