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Is attachment weakness?

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etherealmeekle

Attachment tends to be a problem it often causes jealousy and other selfish acts. It is not impossible to love some one so much and still accept that you will lose them. In life it is death is inevitable. Why live in fear of the inevitable? Accept this fate and then live life. Same goes for love you will eventually separate through death if nothing else, if you don't accept this you will only live and love in denial.


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heyjme1

I have on answer: time is a healer. But any wise person knoiws there's no such thing as time.


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1347 Posts / 44M
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etherealmeekle

So your answer is that a nonexistent thing will provide healing? How is that an answer?


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heyjme1

Its an ironythat time does not exist but if you will it to exist it will exist and it will exist because you are being human. You have to understand the separatness of, but at the same time the link between, you from yourself.


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etherealmeekle

quote:
You have to understand the separatness of you from yourself.



How does seperating me from myself have anything to do with time existing or not?


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heyjme1

Because the mortal you is a creature of habit yet the immortal you is a being of change.


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1347 Posts / 44M
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etherealmeekle

How would you know? You just said time doesn't exist how can you possibly know that I am both mortal and immortal?


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760 Posts / 42M
     :   19yrs   :  
MugenNoKarayami

I don't know if this is just me, but i seem to be following everyone's posts just fine except for heyjme1's. seriously the most confusing and doesn't seem like its relating to the topic.. but anyway, If i recall I would have to agree it would depend on the magnitude of the couples relationship, If one truely feels that deep love for the other and those emotions are reciprocated. by some weird twist of fate one of them is "taken" from eachother by means of death, i don't think feeling that pain is a weakness at all. again i should say that you should do everything in your power to accept the loss, but never forget. This can only be achieved "in time" how ever long that may be. again depending on the bond you shared with your partner.


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772 Posts / 43M
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heyjme1

Your a Christian so...

Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread"

But you 'know' there are all different types of bread are there not? Well thats you being mortal. It is your peception of many things being different. Here's a thought; You are unique; just like everyone else.

Christ understood; he understood


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     :   28yrs   :  
Decius

Mugen: I agree with your post entirely.

Heyjme: I agree that one should love all deeply and immensely, but with the limited time we have in this world and the limits of our methods of communication, perhaps even loving one person selflessly is still something that is a worldly achievement.

But something feels shallow about not feeling pain when somoene is taken from you. Why do I feel that?


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heyjme1

It is because you would know so much about so little and that when the emotional attachment is gone it is literally like losing an extension of yourself when they pass. (remember that Da Vinci meant 'friendship' being one soul sharing two bodies). It can't be helped-we're human-but time is a healer. We have to cope the best we can. Check out the principle of maximimum diversity (again) by Freeman Dyson.

I think the only real weakness is ignorance. However, with regards Wyote's question; I think, in order for there to be 'real' love you have to understand respect for one another and that respect is of cause something earned.


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3020 Posts / 63M
     :   25yrs   :  
Wyote

could society impose guilt for not missing the deceased? everyones grieving process is different, and some take longer than others. whats too much? whats too little? where do our standards come from?

if you believe in an afterlife, you should feel happy for those who have passed on.


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awakendwraith

do you decius?


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2902 Posts / 95M
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Decius

quote:
if you believe in an afterlife, you should feel happy for those who have passed on.


The question is not about a belief in this... it is certainty... and the level of certainty is directly proportional to the level of pain you will suffer.

Although, aside from them being lost, there is also the pain of you missing them. We automatically think death is bad for the individual who is dying, but there is that, and also the fact that we no longer have the individual.

I think it is impossible to escape missing somoene who is your companion, and I also think it is absolutely normal to cope with such a loss.

However, if one can eliminate the pain of feeling that the loved one suffered because of their death, then the pain is manageable.

I would have to say, as I think about it, that I don't actually feel like much of the pain I would feel would be because they died and suffered. I don't believe death is a horrible experience and I do belive that it would be beautiful to die and become one with the universe.

I guess majority of the pain I would feel would be the loss of their company, and the emotional wound I would feel for my own life.


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1694 Posts / 41M
     :   20yrs   :  
awakendwraith

felling pain is not weakness. the only question left is if you can take it. if you can't take then pain of losing some your attached to, then your atachment is weakness. at least i think so. and if you can, your not weak, your human. and humans are not weak.


"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

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