Christian Crimes against Humanity

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If I took the bible literally

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

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If we took the Bible literally then Jesus would be a flat wooden thing swinging on hinges!!!! (it says 'Jesus is a door'.

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"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

Good

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

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It is better to loose a hand and still go to heaven then keep your hand and go to hell.

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

If I go and sitdown on a cool night to enjoy a book I in no way expect the book I read to be perfect. Because the author is not perfect.

When I go to sit and read a book that was written by the most perfect of all perfect beings, I kind of expect a little bit from the book.

Through this book many were slain.
The author "allowed" it to happen.
Why would god "allow" the book to misslead people into killing thousands in "His own name".
Don't you think that god should have made the book more clear as to not misslead people into killing others?
He doesn't have to make it so that we have no other choice.
Just because it is perfectly clear and understandable does not mean that we would have to choose to devote our lives to it in anyway.
How could it? I don't understand why you all are saying that we would have no choice but to follow god then.
We would just as much free will, the only difference is that no one person would be confused by the book to do the opposite of what it was meant for.
If god was good then he would not allow the book to misslead people into killing others in its name.
And if you think Im dumb for thinking that I know god you right.
I don't know god, but I do no that I will never admit the existence of this god to be perfect when he openly allows his word to distort people into the opposite of all good.

etherealmeekle:

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But if you read it and choose to ignore it and then kill people based on your decision not to follow the book then is not the author still at fault for leaving that option availible?

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What if you read it all then choose to ignore certain parts and thus are lead to kill people, should God be blamed that He didn' force people to always read the whole book everytime they had an idea?

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"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

A grave mistake happened when someone called the bible the word of God and it would be nice if God looking down, seeing all these people reading this book thinking that God is actually speaking to them thru this book, would say to these people, "Those are inpired writtings but not my words, if you wish to hear me, be silent and listen to your heart." But I guess God does not work that way and I can't say why.

The bible is not the word of God, it is scripture written by the inspiration of the poets, and still scripture is being written today, the bible is one small portion of inspired scripture that a group of people voted on as being the word of God, and it is not.

Its a nice book, I have read it, do read it and will read it - but it isn't the word of God.

I am glad that today I can say that without fear of being thrown in the dungeon.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

I agree that it is a great book to "base" your morals on, but to consider it the "actual" words of god is a terrible mistake.

tisk tisk

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

Then neither of you have understood the book!

""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

Then you must not have understood this thread.

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."

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"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
– Luke 19.27 *

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

Actually, the quote is:

" 'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.' "

Notice the double quotation marks which means that Jesus himself was not actually saying the words; he was merely repeating what someone else said.

"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you."

A friend just shared with me - Luke 19:27 was a part of a parable.

A parable is a story that one would tell to teach you something. Sometimes you need to draw people a picture. And Jesus did do this, and sometimes you have to tell a story.

In this case Jesus tells a story that might not mean a lot to us today, but back then, thats just the way it was back then.

A Lord is someone who has lots of money and land, their servants will call them Lord. Jesus is telling a story about a Lord and is not referring to God.

Thanks friend, I should have caught that.

"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

You are right. It is a parable about being faithful with what God has given us. He has given us abilities and gifts and he expects us to use them wisely. The end part of the parable is refering to the time when the King(Jesus) returns. Those that have lived faithfully following Him will esacpe the judgement that is spelt out in the parable.

It is no less relivant today than it was when Jesus said it!!!

""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

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The end part of the parable is refering to the time when the King(Jesus) returns. Those that have lived faithfully following Him will esacpe the judgement that is spelt out in the parable.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

Its all the word of man, and it shows clearly to me.

"Anything is Possible when you think illogically."