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Emotional Spreading

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3953 Posts / 48M
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Ironwood

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If you were all powerful could (or would) you build a boulder that you couldn't lift?


Is that in any way relevant to the point, no, but to the dodging of it, most certainly.

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Maybe God did create evil


I win.

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How does one create oneself? God simply always existed then He decides to make other things exist as well.


How does one always exist, how does one speak as if they know when they do not, how does one stop this broken record?


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

1347 Posts / 39M
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etherealmeekle

God could make any size boulder He wanted to if it would serve His will.

It makes more sense for God to have always existed than for Him to create Himself.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

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2827 Posts / 91M
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Decius

In replying to the original topic:

That's a very good question Wyote. I believe that those negativies spawn from a sense of self-loathing, which spawns from an insecurity of some kind. Every single person that sub-consciously perpetuates negativity has a negative outlook on their own persona which is the result of insecurities.

If you were to find out why (say they think they are ugly) and quite adeqately convinced them otherwise, I can almost guarrantee you that they would no longer spread negativity.

Hence, even though you have insecurities as we all do, you cope with them by trying to alleviate yourself. The latter type try to bring others down so they are higher than the flock.

And that is, of course, bad.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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etherealmeekle

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I believe that those negativies spawn from a sense of self-loathing, which spawns from an insecurity of some kind


You fail to address where the self loathing comes from. Did it start there? was it learned?


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2827 Posts / 91M
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Decius

Improper parenting, a society that is controlled by making the populace loathe themselves.

In general society is trained to bring people down to their level rather than try to ascend themselves. You are trained to sabotage your neighbour rather than outsucceed him or learn from his skills.

This is not an in-born human trait. It may seem like that because society has naturally gravitated towards that for so many years, but it does not exist everywhere.

In India, for example, this is not the mentality and people generally wish their neighbours the best unless they realistically have something to gain from their neighbour's loss. Here, people do it for no apparent gain except that it seems that it will make them feel better.

In essence, the concept of competition... but just like businesses nowadays it isn't about putting out a better product, it's about flashing yours and downgrading the compeition's.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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2917 Posts / 59M
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Wyote

how do we as humans, rid ourselves as well as eachother of self loathing? even in the strongest and most understanding of relationships it is quite difficult to convince the other person to believe something contradictory to what has already been imprinted in them.

indeed parenting is a key to the spread of more positivity, yet there will always be differences among people. from what ive gathered, people become very uncomfortable in new and different environments.

this topic almost seems to complicated for my own mind now. there are so many facets. cultural differences, economical differences as well as psychological/sociological differences. do these all breed negativity? does a single difference or deviance to the norm automatically create hate?

evil, hate, negativity... they all appear quite neccisary, yet most strive for complete positivity and happiness.


"I am Akba-Atatdia"

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2827 Posts / 91M
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Decius

There is only one solution, it is the best solution, and it is the true solution:

Unquestioned, constant, perpetual and knowledgeable Empathy.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

1347 Posts / 39M
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etherealmeekle

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There is only one solution, it is the best solution, and it is the true solution:


Where do you get the right to claim your solution is best?


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72 Posts / 38M
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for the better

well, dont take everything so personally and literally ethereal. its an opinion, its a solution that works for Decius im guessing.

im not sure why you seem so defensive.


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etherealmeekle

People always challenges me when I claim to be right so why can't I challenge others? Where is the statistical probability to support this claim? How do we know that empathizing with murderers will not just create a desire for more people to murder?


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3953 Posts / 48M
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Ironwood

Either negativity is going to exist or we exist without emotional ups and downs.




"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

72 Posts / 38M
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for the better

i cant even imagine life without negativity.


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2827 Posts / 91M
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Decius

Ethereal: Good question. You are perfectly justified in asking me to explain my surety. I was originally going to argue that I am entitled to my opinion regardless, but in all honesty, i do not view the following as an opinion but rather fact and the essential truth of life. It is important to note that the following is the result of my own creations, and has not been adopted by any 3rd party influences, although after I adopted it it may have been purified, organized, or justified by outside influences.

Here are some psychologically sound assumptions (based on statistical probability):

1. Empathy is indicative of removing the barrier between your emotions and the emotions of another. If you are able to feel everything another person is feeling, you will then protect them just as you would protect yourself.

2. Given an extension of empathy towards one person, it would be in your best interests to protect and help them just as you would yourself. Given that extension of empathy towards 5 people, and the same would exist for 5 people. Given that extension for the whole universe and you would regard the entire universe's benefit as your own, and the universe's pain as your own.

3. Given that most sane people do not choose to cause themselves physical or emotional pain, the more people you are able to empathize with, the more likely you are to shower them with positivity given that most people would choose to make themselves feel better rather than worse.

Hence:

If one were to empathize with each and every person on the planet to a 100% degree, it would be impossible for them to hurt anyone else any more than they would be able to hurt themselves. This would remove the negativity that exists due to insecurities, for if you can feel everything everyone else feels, not only are you not alone, but you share in the benefits and losses that the world as a whole contains. Insecurity is generally the result of some sort of isolated judgement which is a moot point in a world where everyone is a part of the same whole.

Given the above information that is psychologically completely correct, it is then feasible to conclude that if you choose to be a good person who is the most positive, you should try to carry the burdens of everyone else and share in the joys of everyone else, which is empathy. To do this you must not only be strong, but extremely good at learning through awareness for every new entity one encounters is a new puzzle to unravel so as to achieve the maxmimum level of empathy.


"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

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heyjme1

"We are one but we're not the same; we've got to carry each other"
Bono, U2.


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1347 Posts / 39M
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etherealmeekle

Decius you don't mention the fact that this is a violation of free will as it forces everyone to feel for everyone else. This is why equality is such a tough concept to grasp. People need limitations in order to live at peace. That being established how do you force everyone to empathize at the same time? If one person deviates he brings the whole group down because the problem with empathy is that if you are not stronger than the one you empathize with you will conform to that person’s will.


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