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christians? - Page 9

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 28yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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I did not say that all deities are wrong, I said no particular one is the be all and end all representation.


That is political correctness. One can neither be right nor wrong they simply are. and this stops us from asking questions.

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you'd be able to feel spiritual in more situation if you don't limit yourself to one particular system of beliefs.


Incorrec. How many soccer players train themselves to be better soccer players by practising all sports equal? However if they focus their efforts on training for one sport they become much more effective. Same goes with religion you cannot learn all of them effectively and you compromise the integrity of the ones you do learn

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 37yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that PeteSmith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
It does not make logical sense that all religions are true. It is possible for all religions to be wrong but it is not possible for all to be true.

If Christianity is true then no other religion is true.
If Buddha was right then the Christian God does not exist.
If Mohammad was right then the Chrisitan God does not exist and Jesus was wrong.
It is like telling one persion that my car is green and then saying to someone else that it is blue!

All Truth claims are exclusive.

If you take bits and pieces from all religions then you are making a religion made by yourself. Where is the power in that?


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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"
 54yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
How do these religious threads get so long? I got as far as Decius explination of Christianity - he pretty much got it right, hilighting the guilt.

It is my believe that what Christianity is, isn't what Christianity was before the dark ages. What Christianity was, well we really don't know. Peter was made the piller so Saten could not destroy it, so many believe what was is, because it couldn't be destroyed. But I believe what was, was already taken and then came the dark ages.

Concerning the old testament and the law of moses that no one could follow - this law was given to us from the false God goes the teaching of most of the gnostics who were put to death because of this belief.

But when you compare the old testament with the teachings of Jesus, they are so different. Then we are told that God does not change. You figure it out, but I think the Gnosics had something and it was too bad they were put to death for it.

I don't have a religion or church, but I figure if I do as Jesus says as best as I can, it will be alright.


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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 37yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that PeteSmith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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But when you compare the old testament with the teachings of Jesus, they are so different.

What is different? The New testiment is the fulfilment of the old testiment. The Old testiment prophets and laws revealed the coming of Christ. If you miss that you miss the gospel message.

The law was not given to make bad people good, it was to reveal the need for a saviour.

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if I do as Jesus says as best as I can, it will be alright.

what do you mean by alright?

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"
 54yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Pete - I know what you believe, I've learned all that before.

There are things in the old testament that you would not find in the new testament, and then then there are things in the new testament that are questionable. Like someone dropping dead because they didn't contribute their fair share.

Jesus said that I have come to complete the law, but I'm not sure we're looking at the same law Jesus was looking at when he said that.

In the old testament God tells his people to go to war and leave no women or children alive.

In the new testament we are told that peace makers will be called children of God.

That's a big difference.

In a dream I was told that God takes us like a ball clay and makes us unto himself. Based on that dream, I have no doubt about my salvation. Though I have no idea howGod is going to save me, I just have no doubt in it. But it might be a good idea to follow the teachings of Jesus as best as I can.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 28yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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In the old testament God tells his people to go to war and leave no women or children alive.



Historically the only reason to keep women and children alive was for sexual gratification and slavery. The reason God wanted them all wiped out is because they hold the ability to reproduce armies that God would have destroyed. When King Saul was sent to completely destroy the Amalekites it was to prevent them from causing destruction later but incidentally Saul let some Amalekites live and he in turn was killed by an Amalekite.

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In the new testament we are told that peace makers will be called children of God


The New Testament is a fulfillment of the Old therefore the times of great wars are over and now it is a different war. Before the wars fought were with weapons because evil had to be physically removed. Now, however, evil is removed on a spiritual level and so the style of battle has changed to that of calm prayer rather then bloodshed.

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Like someone dropping dead because they didn't contribute their fair share.


Ananias and Sapphira were not killed because they didn't give enough money; in fact they were not obligated to give any money at all. Their sin was trying to lie to God by saying they gave all the money rather than just a portion of it, this was done out of pride because they felt it would give them better status.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 54yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that okcitykid is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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Now, however, evil is removed on a spiritual level and so the style of battle has changed to that of calm prayer rather then bloodshed.


I appreciate that you believe this

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I don't want to change what you believe. Belief is a powerful thing. I remember while in The Navy as a drug and alcohol abuse advisory, for training, I was required to attend an AA meeting. Here I heard the testimony of one young man who says he found salvation from Alcohol from new age teachings - he found the power of the God within that each one of us have. Another young man disagreed and said he found salvation from Alcohol from Jesus Christ. Discovering he was a sinner and could only through the grace of God find salvation.

Both had been sober for some time, both believed in God, both however had different views as to how it occurred. My only conclusion is that God works with us according to how strongly we believe, not necessarily what we believe. It is not possible for us to know for sure, but never-the-less we believe, and it is counted as faith.

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"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."
 22yrs • M •
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im a devoted christian and anyone hear who wants to question me can

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"if jesus died for you why cant you live for him"
 35yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that Ironwood is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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im a devoted christian and anyone hear who wants to question me can


Do you have any idea why you are a devoted Christian?

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"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
 24yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Ancient is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
What is so great about life with God that there isn't without him?

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"Dark and silent and complete."
 24yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
what do you pray for?

why does god let babies die?

are for abortion or against?

would you die on the cross like jesus?

have you ever sacrificed something of yours for someone else?

are you scared of death?

why do you beleive in him? what are you motives?

do you have thoughts about defialing he opposite sex?

do you indulge?

are you gluttoness?

do you give 10 percent of all your time and miney to the church?
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im not going to waste my time.

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
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