No one is in charge of your happiness but you. - Regina Brett
Captain Cynic Guides
Administrative Contact
Talk Talk
Philosophy Forum
Religion Forum
Psychology Forum
Science & Technology Forum
Politics & Current Events Forum
Health & Wellness Forum
Sexuality & Intimacy Forum
Product Reviews
Stories & Poetry Forum
Art Forum
Movie/TV Reviews
Jokes & Games
Photos, Videos & Music Forum

Concerning African-American Decendants of Slaves

User Thread
 52yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Methuzula is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Concerning African-American Decendants of Slaves
Should there be compensation to address the affects of the ((atrocities)) of the government sanctioned Euro/American slave- trade, ownership and subsequent descrimination?

If so what form should it take? If not, why?

How does the answer given reflect a mature, evolved & advanced society or civilization?

| Permalink
"You are affected by 3 generations and you affect 3 generations, and every third generation a major change takes place in the family."
 41yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that heyjme1 is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
Firstly, I'm British so I don't know the situation as well as an informed American would.

However, didn't the African slave trade end offciallly in 1808? There may have been some illegal slavery going on 50 years after but the official end and thus blame on government is almost 200 years old. So the first two generations even indirectly affeted will be dead and it is likely we are talking at least a fourth generation. History sucks and hopefully we learn from it; we certainly have from slavery in this form. However to compensate for it seems ludicrous: in Victorian times 'freaks' were locked up; mentally ill patients locked up; in the 20th century even Jews were killed by Nazi Germans, horrors all over the world took place.

To compensate for over 200 years of slavery seems very unjust. Morally, I also do not think they are obliged; it is so far back. Laws are there to try and prevent racism and so I feel the hope should be towards the future: not in dwelling into history books some 200 years old. I can think of many admitted cock-ups the UK has done and later regretted over the last 50 years (although not on such a scale).

Compensation is going crazy: really it would just be opportunity for greedy lawyers.

There is good point aside money and often governments won't go all out to show there faults off!

Morally perhaps ther should be an anti-slavery day or some such action. However it i probably too late to just invent up some conception . I would say hope for all and equality is the best course of action surely?

| Permalink
""No words""
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that lastresort is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
the world sucks soley because people want more... honestly, about 5% of the african american society actually want a worded apology, the rest want money.... no.

the world sucks because people dont forgive and forget.

| Permalink
 52yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that Methuzula is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
I truly welcome all views and hope to add the uniqueness in each point to my repetoir yet remaining detached and objective.

Physical bondage was not the only handicap imposed on the African in America during slavery.

The first of the African-American's forefathers arrived in the Americas in 1555 with Sir John Hawkins on a slave ship named "Jesus", according to the Library of Congress.

The mixture of kidnapped and purchased Africans, comprised of conquered nations of people including their royalty, arrived speaking their national dialects, practicing their religons, (much of it Islam), and generally exhibiting all the facets of a culture thousands of years in the developing.

This first generation of slaves had to be "broken" to accept it.

Under penalty of death their languages were disallowed to be spoken. Anyone caught practicing their native religon was put to death. It was made illegal to possess any books or writing utensils or to be taught to read English.

The family unit and bonds were systematically dismantled/destroyed and the women forced into breeding-only with the men, not allowed to marry anymore or raise their offspring they'd become a strange cash-crop regularly sold off in different distant directions across the country.

Constant brutality, bloody mutilation punishments, public executions and ritual rapings became the climate in which the African slave endured life.

These conditions, and worse, persisted for approx. 310 years without a paycheck. After 3 centuries, produced from a once proud people, you have a people stripped of language, culture, religon, their names and the knowledge of their true history or that of others. You have an epedemic of males with no sense of responsibility towards his woman or children or family and illiteracy across the board.

Through discriminatory laws the former slave's condition was perpetuated and maintained as he was considered 2/3 of a human being and that only to enhance the voting power of plantation owners.

Is it immature to study this era? Those times produced the modern African-Americans who haven't shaken off the effects of this cheapening of the value of life and display all the symptoms of one suffering from Post Traumatic Strees Disorder.

That aside, the case for repairing the damage was made by America when she compensated the decendants of the Asian Americans who were interned in Concentration Camps here in America, (in the west), forced from their homes and businesses under paranoid suspicions that they were all possible collaborators with the enemies of America during WWI. The decendents were paid $10,000 each.

The Jews of the Holocaust in Germany are compensated to the tune of millions annually by Germany.

The decimated Native American Indian benefits from programs in place to ensure they have the resources to compete with the modern world. Everything from college tuitions to land.

Also the United States Gov. mandated that every freed slave recieve "40 Acres and a mule" in order to jumpstart their entrance into American Social equality after slavery was abolished. They didn't deliver then, why not an equivalent now?

Others never fogot their sufferings and the world community forces nations to express a conscience when it comes to "crimes against humanity", (which is what the United Nations has deemed the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade).

For whose convienence should they "forgive and forget"? The nation was enriched through free labor. The guilty are long gone but the decendants cannot continue to ignore their responsiblity towards that segment of the population affected by the atrocity.

One thing's for sure, an effective solution will never be reached by exercising "selective amnesia". It's this collective "amnesia" demonstrated by the decendents of the slave masters that continues a climate where atrocities continue under different guises.

| Permalink
"You are affected by 3 generations and you affect 3 generations, and every third generation a major change takes place in the family."
Concerning African-American Decendants of Slaves
  1  
About Captain Cynic
Common FAQ's
Captain Cynic Guides
Contact Us
Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
General Forum Rules
Cynic Trust Levels
Administrative Contact Forum
Registration
Lost Password
General Discussion
Philosophy Forums
Psychology Forums
Health Forums
Quote Submissions
Promotions & Links
 Captain Cynic on Facebook
 Captain Cynic on Twitter
 Captain Cynic RSS Feed
 Daily Tasker
Copyright © 2011 Captain Cynic All Rights Reserved.   Terms of Use   Privacy Policy