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Questioning his Behaviour - Page 6

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 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
It is not 'good' to serve self above all others.

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 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
It is not 'good' to serve self above all others.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 32yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
then nothing is good. becaause every action is done for the will of the actor, and i think you are wrong about that. why is it not "goos" to help yourself, especaily when you help others

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
It is good to help others and only help yourself when to do otherwise would stop or limit your help to others. This is good because it helps people build relationships and keep a collective interest in mind so as to better the whole by improving the sum

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 32yrs • M
A CTL of 1 means that awakendwraith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
then i guess im real fuckin' "good"

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"Why cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."
 35yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that etherealmeekle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
knowing very little about you I cannot comment on that.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"
 68yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that cturtle is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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This superiority and inferiority nonsesne is just a part of your ego. Every indivdual is equally valid but for some reason we judge such that some individuals we call inferior and scientific laws operate becuase of the organisation of the universe, created by a much higher intelligence.
I agree but I deal with handicapped people a lot more than most people so I tend to project thoee preceptions learned dealing with mentally handicapped upon so-called normal people or situations, it gives a certain clarity to them.

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"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."
 34yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that summit is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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Atheists also are subject to the moral code created by God

Etherealmeekle: Wrong. Some ethics may conform each other, yet Athiests have no direct connection to a deity. Your justification for this is?

The plausible theory ethereal is that Atheists are capable of governing their own moral behavior. And if you don't understand that, then attaining thorough explinations through personal research is suggested before you question Atheism. ie. books, internet.

You can also consider this:
1. If theism is true then 'God is good' is morally significant.
2. If theism is true then God plays an explanatory role in ethics.
3. If 'God is good' is morally significant, then moral goodness must be independent of God.
4. If God plays an explanatory role in ethics, moral goodness must be dependent on God.
Therefore: Theism is false. Theism in other words, is self contradictory and hence false. We can construct an exactly parallel argument substituting "God wills us to do what is good" with "God is Good" and by doing this we capture the challenge to theism. By the way, this was posed by Plato's dilemma.

You cannot be moral without making choices. Simply obeying rules, tradition and dogmatic answers to moral questions do not make a person moral. Morality requires choices, and the more that a person relies on a "text book of morality" or dogmatic pre-laid rules, the less they are acting as a moral person. Obeying rules because you think you should is not the same as making moral choices, therefore at best such people are morally neutral, amoral."

Awakenedwraith: You didn't interpret the 'Me first, always' ideology correctly. It doesn't mean Athiests are selfish, it means that they realise that there is a standard of goodness independent of a 'god' and they admit that 'god' cannot be the source of morality. In other words, they choose to be independent of a deity.

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"The summit is just a halfway point"
 45yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that PeteSmith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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The plausible theory ethereal is that Atheists are capable of governing their own moral behavior

Would you say Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini did right or wrong?

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"
 45yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that PeteSmith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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If 'God is good' is morally significant, then moral goodness must be independent of God.


God is the source of goodness. His goodness is not measured by some outside reference. He is the reference for what is good. Moral goodness can only be dependant on God.

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"
 34yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that summit is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
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Would you say Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini did right or wrong?


I am not an athiest, as I have never claimed to be. However according to my morals, yes they simply did wrong.

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God is the source of goodness. His goodness is not measured by some outside reference. He is the reference for what is good. Moral goodness can only be dependant on God.


If 'God is good' is morally significant, then moral goodness must be independent of God. If God plays an explanatory role in ethics, moral goodness must be dependent on God. Theism is self contradictory and hence false.


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"The summit is just a halfway point"
 45yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that PeteSmith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
What if I believed they did nothing wrong. They just lived up to there own morals. Could you really say I was wrong?


NOTE: My belief is they were very wrong.

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"
 45yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that PeteSmith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
What do you mean by 'morally significant'?

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"
 34yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that summit is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
If hypothetically you believed they did nothing wrong then from your perspective your beliefs would be right. But from my perspective you would be wrong.

Moral significance basically means something has ethical importance.

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 45yrs • M •
A CTL of 1 means that PeteSmith is a contributing member of Captain Cynic.
So then where does a government get right and wrong from?

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