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1287 Posts / 40M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

one thing in particular has always struck as just plain stupid in christianity ( i suspect a similar situation exists in most other relgions, but i know most about crhistianity due to having been raised a christian), and that is the devil. If god is omnipotent then surely he would have the power to obliterate the devil, although according to all reports he hasnt, the devil still manages to steal some of gods people from under his watchful eye. why does god allow it? ive heard apparently that the devil has been mortally wounded and is dying, but trying to take as many people with him as he can. why does god allow it? seems pretty shoddy to me from an all powerful god.

If anyone is now thinking free will, i have several suggestions as to what you can do with those two words. the most polite is forget them, it balatanly exists, but is used far to much by christianity to gel over all manner of evils and discrepancies. god may have given us free will, but an absence of god would be an equally valid explanation for free will. if god had made us and wanted us to follow him and wanted to protect us, surely the last thing he would have done, would have been to allow the greatest tempter to give screwing the human race over his best shot. free will means we can choose to follow him or not.

The other major thing that has always buged me, is the garden of eden story. we screwed up due to devils temptation, so what does he do? he distances himself from us, leaving us to fend for ourselves in our hour of greatest need. once again, he recieves the GW Bush award for intelligence. that move was almost surrender, " uve sinned, i've lost you, therefore im distancing myself. its like your best friend suddenly saying "ok u stole some of my sweets, i forgive you, but from now on your only allowed to text or email me, though i may phone you if and immediate family memeber dies". "to err is human, to forgive divine" anyone else starting to wonder?

The most polite suggestion i have for the first person who comes out with the "the ways of god are to deep for our mortal understanding" would probably get me chucked off this forum. so lets just say dont give me that crap please.


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

1347 Posts / 41M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

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free will means we can choose to follow him or not.

The only alternative to following God is following Satan.
In the beginning God could have stopped Satan from rebelling, but then that would mean that God forces His will upon people. After Satan was cast out of heaven God could have killed him, but in doing so God would have removed the choice of good and evil because it is Satan who brings the choice to man. God's will was that Man be freely obedient to Him.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1347 Posts / 41M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

What happened in the Garden of Eden can be understood with the following story.
A great king takes a trip and he appoints his best friend as steward over his kingdom. The steward can do everything the king can with the authority of the king, the only thing the steward must not do is sit on the throne because to do so would be asserting himself as king and that is treason. The king returns to find his friend in the throne and knows that the punishment for treason is death. Instead of having him killed the king removes all privileges from the steward and Send him out of the palace.


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

1347 Posts / 41M
     :   23yrs   :  
etherealmeekle

Do you think the king and his friend can simply go on in the same manner as before?
Do you think the king was lacking intelligence when he spared his best friend's life?


"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

What came first religion or politics?

This does not matter to me anymore.

What matters is that Christianity or Buddhism (I favouritise based on history, experience and wisd) have at their heart a code by which we can follow. Until a better one comes...they suffice for now.

Every person needs law and order to stop us being animals. We are far from being globally righteous...but the point is good does seem to outwin lesser goods. So, for now, on our paths, but dot be skeptical of religion. We are all born ready to be impressed upon by our environment. If these values are good, then I say allow them. As for fanaticism in wrong course...these will never last long...they simply destroy people when weakness comes along....hope is there for good reason.


""No words""

32 Posts / 48M
     :   19yrs   :  
MizzXplicit

right so that rant was well said for a rant. usually when i rant nothing makes sense but there were many good points. i am biased as i am a religion trasher as well.
in my opinion, religion trashers such as perception are too smart for thier own good and are sad becasue we see the truth in things. sucks for us.
good job Perception.


"how.empty.of.me.to.be.so.full.of.you"

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