The Problem of Evil

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Bullshit. Man did not create pain, suffering, tragedy and death.

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We are not the only sources of pain and suffering, in fact, most mass pain and suffering comes from, weather, drought, famine, hurricaines, tornados, floods, asteroids, DISEASE.

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By making evil to test for good, one has been evil for making evil.

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God's beautiful universe and planets with their automated systems of cleansing, growth, life and death, are indeed beautiful and magnificent, but they also cause endless pain suffering and death. This is balance.

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Even God was in the dark and alone, before he made light.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

hi.

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Why not?

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When Man fell to sin God cursed the earth. The natural disasters you mentioned never happened until Man sinned.

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God did not make evil. Evil is a result of choice, but it was not created.

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The universe was not created this way and nor is it going to stay this way. Balance is just an excuse to allow people to be evil. Besides you said earlier that balance doesn't stand a chance.

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How do you know this?

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Why not?

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"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

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he is the one who insites resentment and distaste and prejudice. he is the one who creadted deseas.

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and because he is all knowing, and everything has a porpous, he has set fate in everyone of us. and a tragedy is a fated defeat. and because he is all knowing, he knew that when he creadted life, he creadted death.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

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the is a very simple response to this. god created it. god is the one who cursed the earth. he is the one who insites resentment and distaste and prejudice. he is the one who creadted deseas. i kno this, because you just told me so

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Even God was in the dark and alone, before he made light.

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

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we are not free to choose whether to get burned or not!!!

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"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

What is the basis for that statement? I gave a basis for mine.

""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

god is all knowing, therefore knew every buit of suffering that would happen

"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

I think understanding will get rid of the problem of evil. It is my feeling that its a poor trait of ours to compare one with another. If you place one thing as good and not all things then ultimately you will jusge another as evil. This is the problem with catagorization...seeing the trees and not the forest. The problem with religion is that our generation reads it ultimately and narrative is inferior to a form of communication known as feeling, whose modes of communication are through empathy and understanding.

The problem with Christianity is this; it perceives that individuals are born evil and then must attain goodness. Lol. all babies are just born and then experience. The emotional attachment one adds to an observance is inherited. Why culture has shaped this way to categorise I don't know-I just feel that the ultimate way is to stop cataegorsing and see a unity rather than a contrast. If there is unity I am left to conclude it is best described by the word peace.

As to the argument against the problem of evil there is another avenue of aproach hardly anyone uses. Whilst we know that ultimate happiness is unnatainable because we are not always happy isn't it equally valid that ultimate sadness is equally unnatainable?

Now we live in a material world. Balance exists. Positives have there negatives. Yes, this is true so ok good and evil may exist. But, these are finite. Now Christians see God as righteous; and they traditionally see God giving Lucifer free will and Lucifer becoming a devil and causing evil. Well its still God who created the evil even if you wish to deny the link. But, if evil and good are finite, being not all of God then God is more. This reuqires a deeper level of understanding and for this we must operate at a higher level than the material world, which is all we know...now at least

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god is all knowing, therefore knew every buit of suffering that would happen

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""What we do in life echoes in eternity" Maximus"

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To the Christian, death is not the end, it is a transition to heaven. Death and sufferning is only a problem if you believe that there is nothing after death. As a philosopher once said "Death is athiesms only problem". Thats a pretty big problem I would say!

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There's no use in crying over split milk, but that doesn't mean i want my milk to spill now does it? -Xaej

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"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

My dear christians, you must understand that the problem with your belief is that you do not comprehend infinity, and you do not comprehend initial relative cause. If god can be infinite then he is all things. And since his consciousness has been said to be the starting point of existence, atleast earth's, then he is responcible for all things that follow because of his actions. Then you say he knows all, which means he knew what choices you will make. Therefore all sin is caused by none other than your notorious god.

"Please try to come up with a system were free choice is valued" There is no such system, all choices are casued by the preceding infinity of "actions" (as they are devided by the human consciouness).

A tree as a sign of power? Signs are for humans... they are left to be interpreted. What kind of god though would need a sign?

You also seem to be under the influence that your morals are absolute and that there is an actuall right and wrong or holy and evil. There is not. Irrevocably the the desire to survive facilitates the senses and contrast is born. Though all things are but energy you see things as a chair, a smile, etc. Vagaries my dear christians...

"Dark and silent and complete."

by the way

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But all this could have been easily avoided. You fail to grasp the situation; God had faith in Adam and Eve's ability to trust Him.

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"Wht cry for those that often cry? Instead, help them smile, and smile for those that smile."

ha ha

"Dark and silent and complete."

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bull shit. god knows all. you etheir beleive this or you dont ethereal. make up your mind. he fucking knew what would happen. dont pretend he didnt know his faith wasnt going to be broken. and if he didnt, he is NOT all knowing.

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"Speak out, even if what you have to say is unpopular"

Memory and thought are tangible, such things cannot exist within a trully omniscient creature. You seem to believe that your senses are absolute. Yet you I am sure have been wrong at times... and so your senses are faulty. But God's are not... whats the difference?

As for choosing not to remember... lol keep comming up with that shit and I'll keep telling you your and idiot then have to explain why.

"Dark and silent and complete."