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2004 Election

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iSOUGHT|THOUGHT

(mainly for clarification on the part of the beloved, yet nit-picking Astarte)

cturtle Quote:"The spirit via the (unconcious) subscious opens (raises) these to the conscious level as the conscious mind can cope with them."

Is that because it's perceived as the next logical step in your development (the next step you are prepared to take)?> One experiences perceptions, then attempts to contextualize... taking little mental steps.


cturtle Quote: "The Law (OT) was given to teach mankind as a child, the Christ came to fulfill the OT, where as an adult you are held accountable to either the Law of Love (NT) or the Law of Moses (OT). The only mistake is in man's perception."

I agree with the mistake in perception, and the transiton from adolescence to adulthood... something related-

Hebrews chapter 5:
verse 12- For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food.

verse 13- For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.

verse 14- But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.


cturtle Quote: "People tend to see what they want to see & be obvious to anything else."

btw, you meant oblivious right?

*sighs* (hopefully of relief)


"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."
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Astarte

I stopped reading this thread because I can't read people's arguments when they're not formatted gramatically and it's just one huge ass paragraph with no transitioning of sentences.

*shrugs*


"Milk, almonds and pistachios."

230 Posts / 49M
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iSOUGHT|THOUGHT

lmao at your sentence structure, especially since it is criticizing my own...

Romans 2:1- Therefore you are inexcusable, O (wo)man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things.

quotes are kick ass, not to be blasphemous or anything... lol


"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."

3969 Posts / 50M
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Ironwood

which part would be blasphemous?


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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296 Posts / 49M
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Astarte

Hahaha,
Sought you have your ways of poking straight back.


Clever you.


"Milk, almonds and pistachios."

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cturtle

ithought, right on about all counts.
astarte, if that is directed my way, my ignorance is showing,
I speak no foreign languages & have a lot of trouble with English.
But then I have no musical talent either, oh well what can I say or dobut try as best I can?
P.S. I am also a lousy typist & speller besides being hard to understand.


"Terrorist or tyrant, few may come to the Truth that both are poor choice."

230 Posts / 49M
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iSOUGHT|THOUGHT

leftwood...

was a stretch, but it seemed that by using scripture to belittle someone else (even in the slightest) while proving my point was a little impious.

btw astarte, all in good fun


"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."

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Ironwood

Wow, that's an interesting statement coming in referrence to, I assume, a religion that does just that, and is doing so quite loudly at the moment against gays. Sorry for going political and I don't claim to know your personal posisstions but if you're meaning implied christianity in any way then my point stands.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

230 Posts / 49M
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iSOUGHT|THOUGHT

i was referring to the bible, but i DO NOT appreciate the religious portrayal of it. i don't associate myself with any of them. their own viewpoint, which they are entitled to, should not be cast on others- no matter how many they have in support.
(offered up in debate is entirely different, let the opinions fly)

besides, it IS their interpretation... their's for a reason, right/
i already wrote a few posts earlier about judging others
it is pointless.

i think the passage they mostly work off of is

ROMANS 1:20- For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
21- Because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22- Professing to be wise, they became fools...
26- For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27- Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28-And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
29- Being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,
30- Backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31- Undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful;
32- Who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

it's not hard to see the negativity that comes from most of the forementioned; however, i assume the religious are unable to distinguish between approving of something and co-existing.

SILENCE MUST BE APPROVAL! (sarcasm)... the same god did state how he loved the sinner, but hated the sin.
i haven't seen that idea catch on yet, especially when applied to the homosexuality issue.

leftwood, thx for the post and yes, your point still stands... solid as a rock i might add, and i think you'll be with me in saying

if anything should be loudly spoken out against, it should be the varrying degrees of the "religious" christian. (Of whom, every variety is "complete" in their stance.)


"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."

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Ironwood

Indeed I do share that sentiment, but only for the fundamentalists and fanatics, the ones who find ways to hate and belittle people and all while deeming themselves ritghteous and morally superior, sickens me to no end. How they don't want their rights infringed upon but are more than happy to trod on others.

We all have to find our ways to cope, so I don't hold it against those who seek the good ideals of any religion, its just the ones who......

"22- Professing to be wise, they became fools..."

suddenly know whats best for everyone, whether they have a clue as to why that is, who become the dangerous people to have influence over our country or any other, its those types that we fight today, to an extent.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

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iSOUGHT|THOUGHT

i'm sick of it as well. every offending action on their part points to other scripture that speaks against it.

do unto others

judge not

golden rules, yes, but the bible has recorded them for thousands of years... that's an indication (at least to me) of something worth a little attention.

and fanaticism.. religious zeal spurred on by narrow interpretation...

isn't that what brought about the call to war against all unbelievers in the koran?


"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."

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Ironwood

Not to mention how we ended up in Iraq, and with Bush re-elected. Morals values so strong that collatoral damage insues in the form of tens to hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian, men women and children, deaths. If we had an accurate number of insurgent deaths next to civilian Iraqi deaths, you'd think we were almost on the insurgent's side.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

230 Posts / 49M
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iSOUGHT|THOUGHT

i caught a discovery times program on the war...

we are not in the right... the few arabs that committed the acts of terrorism weren't either. but before i saw the program, even though i knew it to be a lie, all arabs might as well have been flagging the planes the whole way to the towers...

right on with the insurgent comment


"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."

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Ironwood

"i caught a discovery times program on the war... "

was it heavy?


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

230 Posts / 49M
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iSOUGHT|THOUGHT

like a ton of bricks (or was it barrels of oil???)

*shrugs*


"as i see it the only "variable" in the equation is THOUGHT. you are capable of changing this and this alone."

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