What is the soul?

I should clarify... perhaps from a spiritual perspective Tibet is what I describe, but from a political perspective they are not. The Dalai Lama, the leader of Tibet, speaks against China's authority, political, environmental and justice practices all the time.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

Having a "foe" is a choice. And if you choose an existence with a "built-in" or already established foe you can't possibly live the ideal to the point described, because you've started the entire experiment with an enemy.

You first have to create an existence with no "built-in enemies" or change your current situation or perspective to eliminate the whole idea of "enemy" in order to make this a reality.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

" The Dalai Lama, the leader of Tibet, speaks against China's authority, political, environmental and justice practices all the time."
Yes but he's not DOING anything, he's not FIGHTING back. Hence the peace prize, he's an ineffective Ghandi because the Chinese are much more motivated then we British were.

"You first have to create an existence with no "built-in enemies" or change your current situation or perspective to eliminate the whole idea of "enemy" in order to make this a reality."
Oh, so the Jews made their own Hitler?

Flower power, passive resistance, and monks who say "omh" work in few situations.

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

How is speaking against the Chinese not fighting back? It's just a different method but it's still a form of "fighting".

The Jews, they chose to live an existence where an enemy existed, yes.

Passive resistance...what about no resistance.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

No resistance? Well then either thieves rob you, or the nazis kill you, or the jihadists send boeings into your buildings, or the commies conquer you or anything else.

Fuck's sake you gotta fight sometimes, this seems obvious to me, surrender is a mistake.

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

I think the stability of the USA and Europe has spoiled people. It gives people the idea that hippy flower power is the solution to anything, when it solves nothing.

If the Dalai Lama shut the fuck up, China would still enslave his countrymen.

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

Again you're hearing what you want to hear. I never said it was/is an option in every situation. If you have chosen an existence with a built in enemy then you have chosen an existence where you have to fight. Not everyone chooses to live that kind of an existence, which is why I don't live in Tibet.

The fact remains that you get what you give and you have the option to give and receive love.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

Passive resistance "can" work, it just depends on your methodology. There is no difinitive solution to seek revolution or change because that entails new ideas and new methods.

Gandhi could have been entirely inneffective if the world was not de-censitized to horrible images. He was a pacifist... in fact, that was the entire nature of his movement. Let yourself be vandalized, and the world will see the atrocity and stop it.

I do agree that pacifism is limited nowadays since there is no universal morality. But that does not mean that strong action is the only solution.

"Hating everyone protects me from elitism."

Passive resistance was never a term I used, that was DT's interpretation of what I was getting at. The "new ideas and new methods" that the solution entails is exactly what I'm talking about... finding a way to live in love.

Again, I go back to the idea of... (and sorry if I'm repeating myself but this is the point of the entire discussion) find me a problem in the world, any problem, that isn't solved by one or more of the following: peace, respect, forgiveness, trust, truth, understanding, compassion, appreciation, acceptance, courage, freedom, patience, care, awareness, etc.

I can't find one, if you can PLEASE let me know.

Working "against" the problem has never worked effectively... we may take baby steps with it but it requires having the "perpetrator" (that's in quotations because I don't believe in the concept of perpetrator or victim, we are all co-creators in my view) listening to the person or group of people who are pointing the finger at him or her saying "you suck, you're wrong, stop what you're doing!" Who's going to respond to that? Have you ever responded kindly to that kind of an approach?

Working on promoting the above ideas... the idea of (to sum it all up) love, is the solution to every single problem that exists, promoting the ALTERNATIVE is the definitive solution.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"
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We dont choose our enemies or our existence. The Jews didnt choose Hitler, the Negroes didnt choose the whites, the Poles didnt choose the Russians, the Tibetans didnt choose the Chinese, the Russians didnt choose Ghengis Khan.

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

That's a matter of opinion DT.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

I dont think so, that's like saying, the Indians invented England.

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

I think it's more like saying they chose to be Indian with English influence.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"

What you think they chose to have the English come to them and kill them? I suppose you would have them run away.

That is no solution, eventually the English would call themselves Americans. And then Americans would chase them from THAT land and there would be no land left.

Retreat and surrender are cowardice and death.

"Durch Nacht und Blut das Licht"

Suppose all you want.

Every human experience has to be there in order for humanity as a whole, mass consciousness, to learn about ourselves and what we're capable of.

Everyone chooses their "roles" within the human experience. If you chose a role where fighting is a necessity than that is your choice.

"Love everyone, question everything and look up!"