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The Anti-Bush Thread

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1309 Posts / 43M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

i never said that conspiracy was exclusively nonexistent, im sure it does exist. As for believeing what they say, also no there, im of the firm belief that no politician has ever said more than 5 truthful words in a row, and even that was only "my name is [forname] [surname]".

As you said missing all the ins and outs of american politics does give me half an excuse for being wrong, though it could also mean that i should just keep quiet. but the point is im not dismissing what your saying, i just have quite a lot of cynisism left over from watching a program about the illuminati, in which 3 americans made complete fools of themselves by talking out of their backsides for half an hour. though admittedly there was one interesting unexplained bit.

as for the bit about the mob, i was purely talking about the legally voting public. though the corruption and organised crime are possibly maybe even definitely part of american politics. I should probably look into it more before making any definite judgement.


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

4073 Posts / 53M
     :   31yrs   :  
Ironwood

I just can't believe how many interviews and speeches by current and former, government, CIA, DEA, etc. claim direct knowledge or even presentable evidence of all kinds of systematic corruption, some under gag orders, some not.

http://www.unlearning.org/library/conspire.wmv


8 minutes of a very small collection of quotes from people in the know.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

1309 Posts / 43M
     :   20yrs   :  
Cynic-Al

ill have a look at that at some point later when i have more time.


"So Schrodinger's Cat is not only neither dead nor alive, but might also be sexually aroused by elbows and peanut butter?"

125 Posts / 45M
     :   61yrs   :  
kathaksung

Make a blackmail more efficient (1/8)

Bush was elected not by people but inside group (7)

"Democrat wins Washington with 130 votes". Mercury News reported on Dec. 24. It said Democrat Christine Gregoire won the election by 130 votes out of 2.9million ballots cast in third round of recounting by hand. The previous count and recount declared that she had lost to her GOP rival Dino Rossi by 261 and 42 votes separately. The article came with a picture of smiling C. Gregoire. She really had a reason to smile to win the seat of governor of Washington at such a slim margin:0.004%.

The price of this victory may be big for Democrat : The seat of Presidency of US. I think it's a concession to the pressure of people whom demand investigation on obvious election fraud in Florida and Ohio.

Strange enough, the protest on rigging election are mostly from individual groups or observer. The high ranking of Democrats seem keep a blind eye on it. Kerry quickly admits his failure despite a controversial election. Have you ever heard any words from Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Edwards..... about the fraud? These people are experts. They know the principle of game. If there is no order from inside group, they won't make a move.

As a matter of fact, the result of election was decided long time ago. When they pushed Howard Dean out of the campaign in Democrat's Primary, the inside group had got what they want already. There is little difference between Kerry and Bush. They both voted for war and Patriot Act. Bush was elected because he was proved a loyalty of inside group. He was more eager to sell his soul.

The skill to squeeze more from an election now is more advanced. Though they are able to make a unilateral victory for a candidate, Feds created a situation that by only control several hundreds of votes they can decide a governor of a state. Or by only control the election result of a state, they can decide a president of US. With which they can more efficiently to blackmail the candidate.


2203 Posts / 68M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

I believe you're right, because we do know that there is fraud. The biggest names who could stand up and put a stop to it, won't.

Barbara was the only one - of course, she's not running for president.

As much as this frightens me, I'm still blogging and protesting knowing the number of visitors to my blog keeps growing is hope enough in a belief that the many can beat a few, no matter how powerful. The impossible just takes a little longer.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

4073 Posts / 53M
     :   31yrs   :  
Ironwood

Bush gives the finger again.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/030805perspective.htm


Though I personally know nothing of the incidenct nor why it occured, the link has a quip about Cafta, so I'm adding another link with an explanation to "their" posistion on Cafta.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/030805dirtytricks.htm


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

2203 Posts / 68M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

I do, I've been looking for it. Jay Leno showed it. The press continued to question him about Rove, the finger is his reply.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

125 Posts / 45M
     :   61yrs   :  
kathaksung

What good is Bush?

1. He cannot even express correctly what he thinks.

e.g. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

2, He has no common knowledge. He doesn't know the money of Russia and Iraq.
Bush speaks of 'Soviet dinar' in speech about Iraq

Wed Aug 18, 8:28 PM ET HUDSON, United States (AFP) - US President George W. Bush spoke of "the Soviet dinar," even though dinars are the Iraqi currency.

<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040819/pl_
afp/us_vote_bush_dinar&cid=1521&ncid=1963&sid=96378801>

3. He had no ability to handle and foresee the development of a big event. He said "(Iraq war) Mission is accomplished". We know it is not.

4. He is too dumb to react an emergence. He had no reaction to a big attack(When WTC was bombed) for 7 minutes.

To react properly in above events is not difficult for most people. How can be in such a great country like US, we have no better selection but an incompetent Bush?

No wonder he is thought the fifth foolish man in US.

Quote, "Thu Mar 31
LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Accused pop icon Michael Jackson has been crowned America's most foolish person for the third straight year, snatching the dishonour from the likes of a murderer and US President George W. Bush

Some 56 percent of those surveyed felt that Bush was the most foolish American of 2005, putting him fifth on the list, between socialite hotel heiress and reality television star Paris Hilton in fourth spot and Janet Jackson in sixth.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050331/ts_alt_afp/us
aprilfooljackson_050331215555


Bush, with his low IQ, even not dare to face kerry's challenge to debate each week. Yet, media from time to time said Bush is leading over Kerry. Do you believe it?

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the big joke abroad. George W. Bush is a big winner at the World Stupidity Awards in Canada.

Bush wins fest's top 'stupid award'

But U.S. president loses to Saddam for Just for Laughs' lifetime awards
Nelson Wyatt
The Canadian Press
July 25, 2004

MONTREAL - The November elections may still be ahead of him, but U.S. President George W. Bush has already come out a big winner at the World Stupidity Awards.
Mr. Bush was a dominating presence at the second edition of the awards presented at the Just for Laughs comedy festival taking place in Montreal

Mr. Black said the awards "celebrate the pros" and "perfection in idiocy" because real stupidity is hard work.

<http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/soundoff/story.html?id=e
3860266-8e91-439e-a02c-bcb68dc5382b>


220 Posts / 43M
     :   19yrs   :  
lastresort

guys, come on... we are all part of the same country, it is this seperation that does not allow us to reach our full potential... yes the seperation of a democratic and republican party is good... to a certain extent, however... it has gone to the point where indiviual thoughts mean nothing. and as for the president, consider the following:

I vow to insult the president, no matter intelligence or speach skills. I vow to question the president no matter how smart the decision seems to be. I vow to wish to have a different president no matter how good the current one is doing. I vow to support my country and its leaders no matter who is in charge.


66 Posts / 43M
     :   22yrs   :  
firstright89

rabble rabble rabble i wonder how messed up if gore would of won he might of put iraq and afganistan in a lockbox and be very disappointed in them and say you are on my badlist. Who actually believes the president is in control anyway, he is just the one person to throw blame at.
Dont consider me a supporter of bush, however him being in office does help m finacialy almost enough for me to get paid what a civilan would be paid in my job.(wait. wait no I would be paid 50,000 a year at least as a network specialist. right now i get 15000 net pay and with medical addin in 25,000)
Right now i am not completely sure of my views on the war, but i do not know why silly people believe a change in president could change this. Do you really think calling the president stupid and blaming him will solve anything, but hell i bet it sure feels for people that do. blame your representatives or hell talk to them about your views( that's how it is supposed to work )
Did you know that they can pass bill for pay raise for themselves (soon their salary will surpass the president's)
But then again i do not see how anything will change. america is on a downward spiral partially because of society.
I just dont want to be at ground zero when it happens


"choose to be happy today"

1334 Posts / 45M
     :   22yrs   :  
summit

any current alternative would be better than bush.


"The summit is just a halfway point"

66 Posts / 43M
     :   22yrs   :  
firstright89

i really dont think kerry would have done better honestly he is a liar( i cant like, let alone trust, anyone that lies about their military record.) I think that any leader we choose we will hate and they will always be wrong and society will still think the executive branch is in control just because they are not willing to watch U.S. Senate or House on Cnn.


"choose to be happy today"

4073 Posts / 53M
     :   31yrs   :  
Ironwood

quote:
( i cant like, let alone trust, anyone that lies about their military record.)


Uh, like Bush?


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

125 Posts / 45M
     :   61yrs   :  
kathaksung

Unpopular Bush (Bush 2)

Even before Iraq war, the world viewed him a villain already. It was from report of his own State department.

Quote,"Many see Bush as villain, US embassies report
by Glenn Kessler and Mike Allen
Washington Post

Washington - the messages from US embassies around the globe have become urgent and disturbing: Many people in the world increasingly think President Bush is a greater threat to world peace than Iraq President Saddam Hussein....." (S.J.M.N. 2/24/03)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55326-2003Feb23.html


Now many viewed him as war criminal. In Belgium, Bush and Blair had been filed with lawsuit of war crimes. They were banned to Church of Nativity. Bush also had been indicted for war crimes by a group of Japanese lawyers. Of course, you can never see this kind of news in US mainstream media. Inside group very carefully protect their puppet.

When Bush visited London November 03, he met with a large protest from people which turned a state visit to a public humiliation. To save Bush's fame, D.O.J. at the same time threw out Michael Jackson's molesting case to distract.

Bush was booed in Pope's death ceremony early this year.

What about American people? Cindy Sheehan's protest camp represents a lot of Americans.

Last year, more than 60 leading scientists-including Nobel laureates, leading medical experts, former federal agency directors and university presidents-issued a statement to protest Bush's scientific policies.

In March 2004, a US business group that monitors federal spending took out a full-page advert in The New York Times, likening President George W. Bush to a corrupt chief executive officer who has forfeited public trust

In May 2004, some 50 retired US diplomats wrote a letter to Bush urging him to reverse the Mid-east policy.

Professionals, from their own angle, protest Bush's policy. Bush is notorious, either in domestic or abroad.

Even Bush's closest ally Tony Blair keeps distance from him.

Quote, "LONDON (AFP) - British Prime Minister Tony Blair is refusing to fly to the United States to receive a medal bestowed on him by the nation for his support over last year's Iraq war, a London newspaper has reported.

US President George W. Bush has put huge pressure on his closest ally to pick up the medal in person, which was awarded over a year ago, the Sunday Mirror said, quoting a senior British government source.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1538&e=10&u
=/afp/britain_us_iraq


Yet, Inside group picked him for second term because despite how notorious Bush is, he is a loyal puppet to his master.


66 Posts / 43M
     :   22yrs   :  
firstright89

purple glasses verses green glasses we see things in different shades there are many ways to see things but i hate seeing only one side im somewhere in the middle though i will vote republican mabye if i hear both sides i will change my mind


"choose to be happy today"

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