why is suicide frowned on???

only someone as dumb as kurt cobain would do such a thing...

"i hate cRap!"

suicide is something that most people think about at least once in there lives,lets face it,it isnt a strange thing to consider,although,most people also get over whatever was causing the thoghts in the first place,with that in mind suicide is not a good answer to your problems no matter how big they may seem at the time....you can always get help for yourself and improve your life,and while i dont personaly look down on anyone who attempts or actually commits suicide,i do belive its a watefull,easy,unthoughtful thing to do

"we are the music makers, and we, are the dreamers of dreams"

suicide is frowned on because it's BAD! It hurts the lives of the victim and their family. I have friends who think about that kind of stuff all the time and let me tell u, it hurts. Now, on a lighter side, suicide is illegal, but how do they enforce the law? Arrest the people who killed themselves? I can see it now, talking to a dead person. "your sentenced to life in prison for suicide!" lol

"I hate stupid people!"

Sucide i believe is looked down upon because of several reasons, it seems like a cowardly way of escaping your problems instead of facing them or asking for help, many religions also believe that if you commit suicide then you commiting an ultimate insult to that which GOD has given you thus you deny yourself even a place in HELL and your trmented soul wanderes the earth restlesly.

"If you know the candle is fire then the meal was cooked a long time ago"

?? wow so if someione knows hes going to hell all he has to do is then kill himself and doesnt go to hell?? seems unfair for the others that didnt kill themselves and going to hell... anyway hell heaven = so 'stupid' (illogcal) i can back myself if you want maybe put it in antoher thread.. it will be like a 2000 word rant but can put it in a few paragrahps maye,..

"no quote until i copyright it.."

have to agree on the heaven/hell=illogical, but on another note, i believe the circurstances around suicide obviously affects the reasoning of the person. its all about perception. do you see your suicide helping others by sacrificing yourself or helping others by easing their problems with you, or helping others by keeping a secret for you rcountry under torture. i believe suicide is honorable when it is a sacrifice for others, but that is seldom the thought foremost in teen suicide. its also a reaction to emotional problems, that causes a lot of messed up thinking. my question is, why is suicide frowned upon by the same people who ask you to sacrifice your life for your country?

"to understand life is to live outside it"

people who ask you to sacrafice your life for your country.....i.e. political figures,and leaders of government...are selfish and self contradicting assholes.....thats why. these people would never sacrafice their lives for their country but they're so willing to give up someone else's......the reason thses people look down on suicide is that for one they dont understand it,two, they dont want to understand because they dont really care,and three, because they know that most amiricans are frightened by things like suicide,they play off that so that more "regular" people will support them and in the end make them more money and give them more power....ugh....i just hate those sort of people,they urk me

"we are the music makers, and we, are the dreamers of dreams"

they urk me too, why is this kind of thing allowed in our country? The politicians are telling us how to live and what to do. that's not how this is supposed to work i don't think...
anyway, why are these people making decisions over the control of our lives when they can't grasp the reasoning behind it?

"to understand life is to live outside it"

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people who ask you to sacrafice your life for your country.....i.e. political figures,and leaders of government...are selfish and self contradicting assholes.

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suicide is illeagle in some places, wich is a completely rediculous law .....how are you going to be charged if you're dead....and if you try to kill yourself and fail what are they going to do arrest a fragile minded person who already wants to die....not a good idea.......no one should be allowed to tell you what you can and can not do with your body as long as you arent physicaly hurting someone else.....

"we are the music makers, and we, are the dreamers of dreams"

see rancid...

basically the law is kept because...it is not the right direction , suicide . And if people were allowed freedom to switch off their life buttons, it would make an impact on the other people's minds. slowly slowly ,seein suicide after suicide would be makin impacts deeper. Then the subconscious itself accepts it as part of life..and then suicides would be cliched.I mean...is dat the way to go?

do u think dats the way life should be taken so easily?
u gota live...u gota develop guts to live...and if u are short of it, someone else should instill it in them

ok....i sort of see some of your ponts....but, the fact that suicide is illeagal, well, i dont think thats ever stopped anyone....and i dont think that if it were to become legal there would be an increase in people killing themselves just because it's legal.....doesnt that seem a bit silly to you?

"we are the music makers, and we, are the dreamers of dreams"

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I SEEK NO PITY-JUST UNDERSTANDING: AS DIFFICULT AS IT MAY BE.
Have you ever felt like, you know, that you know, what you know? This statement has allowed me to see people and things for whom and what they truly are and at the same time, has turned me into the social misfit I am today. I still struggle with the basic question, that is, "What purpose does my existence serve?" This question has become more pressing of late as I find myself with a career and NOTHING else. I live in a foreign country with no family or friends here and possess an uncanny ability to generate a strong dislike by people towards me even when saying or doing absolutely nothing. I harbour no ill feelings towards anyone and frustrate myself because I empathise with the emotional outfall of other people's suffering-when I in turn only receive abuse on a daily basis. Is this my destiny? I found myself towards the end of April at the precipice of the ultimate decision of ending the hollow clanging of my life. I stopped only because I thought of the effect that something like this would have on my family, in particular my parents. It is easy for anyone to say that someone who considers taking their own life is selfish, but this is one of those situations that you can NEVER understand until you find yourself at that very point that so many souls believe to be the only solution. Though I've taken a step back, I KNOW, THAT I KNOW, that I will be back on that ledge, and then finally find out whether EVERY LIVING THING DIES ALONE.

"What consumes your mind, controls your life."

mmm suicide shouldnt be frowned upon...if someone wants to take their own life there is good reason behind it that other people just dont understand and therefor think of it as stupidity.
maybe for suicidal people its the only way to release themselves from the pain.
we are all going to die anyway, its just that some people die sooner. When people say 'they couldve accomplished more in life if they lived for longer,' it seems pointless seeing as anything and everything you do accomplish will be for nothing in the long run.

""every advance in knowledge faces us with the mystery of our own being""

I guess my thoughts on suicide can best be summed up in the song "For a Dancer" written by Jackson Browne after a good friend committed suicide:

"And somewhere between the time you arrive and the time you go, may lie a reason you were alive but you'll never know."

I don't claim to have all the answers or to know all the reasons for suicide, maybe some people feel it is the best way for them and it could be who knows? But my feelings on this answer can also be summed up in a song by Jackson Browne called "Song for Adam" (written again after the same person committed suicide"

"When I stood myself beside him I never thought I was as strong, Still it seems he stopped his singing in the middle of his song. Well, I'm not the one to say I know but I'm hoping he was wrong."

I guess in the end I always have to hold out hope.

""If I am wrong, Thy Grace impart to find that better Way.""