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I've searched everywhere for the true church,
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145 Posts / 37M
     :   28yrs   :  
Azhrei

I am sorry if i sound like a bible thumper but what I said is true.

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The covenant? From what source have you recieved an invitation to a binding aggreement


John 3:16

I know that it is witten in the bible, and believe me i have serious issues with the bible....but that is an example.

What I have said my seem like gibberish, some will understand but some will not....what I tried to say is very diffcult to put into words.

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Has he proven himself to you, and it what way? Something other than simply acknowledging a power greater than ourselves by bearing witness to existance?


Most relgions whorship the same god only a different name. These people, myself included, at least feel as if he has proven he exsists....the experience is different for everyone.


"What is true power?"

3968 Posts / 49M
     :   31yrs   :  
Ironwood

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I am sorry if i sound like a bible thumper


Are you? Why is that?

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but what I said is true.


No.

What you said was nothing, what you referred to was a passage from the Bible, which unless God sent you one personally with your name on it was not a message directed to you as an invitation to a binding aggreement by God.

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What I have said my seem like gibberish, some will understand but some will not.


I think its safer to say that some will relate and identify through recognition and the societal influence you were so concerned with earlier. Which happens to be exactly what you are under.

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what I tried to say is very diffcult to put into words.


That's because you are making shit up, trying so hard to justify "beliefs" you don't have through the words and "convictions" of others.

You've already stated issue with the bible, yet you base your beliefs on it, of course you are going to have a hard time articulating, your contradicting yourself.

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Most relgions whorship the same god only a different name.


Yet those religions would and have fought to the death to prove you wrong.

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These people, myself included, at least feel as if he has proven he exsists....the experience is different for everyone.


And again, you ambiguity is stiffling the debate. You didn't answer the question, it was not directed to them, but to you.

What was your experience, what do you believe or have faith in, why, and don't bother to respond unless you are actually going to answer the questions.

As a follow up, for clarification of something you might just overgeneralize anyway.

If God proves his existance in any way shape or form, how does that authenticate any relgious belief system, dogma, or doctrine? Including your own.


"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"

220 Posts / 40M
     :   19yrs   :  
lastresort

the true church is within yourself... not withing organized religion, stay away from organized religion... organized religion is evil.

ask yourself... "what do I believe" with your answer comes your religion

2203 Posts / 65M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

Believers and non believers can both be arrogent, you are right.

Faith is a trust, a belief in something you cannot see.

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the true church is within yourself... not withing organized religion, stay away from organized religion... organized religion is evil.

ask yourself... "what do I believe" with your answer comes your religion


true

Accept not all organized religon is evil - just most likely wrong.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

772 Posts / 40M
     :   25yrs   :  
heyjme1

Evil vs. Good, The devil vs. God
Its intersenting how Evil goes to devil (just ad a d)
And Good goes to God (remove an o)
Cant think of any meaning though yet...Lol maybe the Bible decoders will do soemthing

Anyway..off the point.

If God is all that was, is and ever will be then everything is our church for we are of God and and Gos is in us so we are a mirror of ourselves as it were. Clasically our spirit is and then mirrors itself to form body, mind and indivisual spirit. A possibility.

The idea to me is that good and evil will exist if you choose to see opposition-that is ultimately judgement of a thing that will happen or has happened. I can tell you know each judgement is different therefore if God is all that was, is and will be, etc. then God has diffrent 'faces'. So I conclude by this that the truth (of what is (which includes thought, matter, action, conciousnes, ilusion, delusion, etc.)) is God. And that piece of mortal coil which you are is a small but nonetheless vital component of this. Perhaps there is orders of God, by which is a hierarchy of some form [erhaps ordered by love, power or some thing.



""No words""

2203 Posts / 65M
     :   49yrs   :  
okcitykid

Sounds a little bit like the teachings of Confucius who believed life was religion.


"A fool says I know and a wise man says I wonder."

18 Posts / 35M
     :   18yrs   :  
the great focy

Well good for that pope he got people to join his religion by threatening death. There is no better way. Except maybe by offering money then making them pay double the price that the money costs for more money.


"I can't believe I ate the whole thing"

220 Posts / 40M
     :   19yrs   :  
lastresort

i <3 you mr. slurm dude...

thats just the reason organized religion is retarded

I've searched everywhere for the true church,
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