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I watched as Pat Buchanan last night was trying to figure out what was so wrong with people trying to keep kids from having sex, how the bible says its bad and isn't that good enough? How it hurts people and whatever else he said.
And I ask you this, why do you think people get hurt from sex, its obviously not from the physical act excluding certain circumstances. I highly doubt its because its something you actually naturally feel guilty about. And to say it causes emotional strain or problems because of emotional issues (while possibly right)is a bit short sighted as it does not look at the sources of such emotional reprecussions.
How often do they stop to think that when people develop negative attitudes and are more than willing to accuse, blame, and even criminalize such natural, compulsive, and even controlled and chosen acts of intimacy, experimentation, calling people morally corrupt for concensual acts, how often do they stop and see these things as possible problems.
Now we must all keep in mind that no matter what we speak of, all things known to exist can be argued to posses both possitive and negative qualities and aspects. Many if not most or all of these things can be addictive or destructive when abused.
Now I know even fundamentalist christians don't like being lumped in with obsessive, abusive, and scandalous members of the evangelical community. Because this overgeneralizes and most people don't think that all should be punished or have THEIR rights taken away because of the acts of a minority or a majority. Never doubt that a majority can act and promote acts that are illegal or otherwise considered immoral or wrong.
Pat still believes that this country was founded on Judeao Christian values. It was not. Though there were a couple members who did advocate christ's teachings, some very strongly, even they were mostly freemsons and diests. These are beliefs not derived of Judeao Christian principles. Their view of God, as mentioned in the constitution and various documents of the time were of a god know only as a creating force, a higher power, not a specified and bible based idea of god.
This is an unecessary mass confusion about our country's base priciples that is in more danger right now of being wrongly percieved and even manipulated to the conservative christian right of our country then in some many years.
I heard two phrases or ideas that scared me about the presidency, which is very related. One is that Bush doesn't have to worry about voters anymore, sure impeachment perhaps, but with the obsessive nature of the self declared "moral" elite, I find it hard to believe that Bush could get impeached for attempting to rewrite our constitution to the religious agenda. The other idea was that Bush is considered by the fundametalists christians in our country to be the LEADER of the fundamentalist movement.
People are going far too overboard with implying meanings to the results of the election. There is a mentality that a moral reform is in need for our country and that christians have the best answer, which would mean that most of the world is going to hell by their beliefs I might add.
These are the people that think they should have complete control over your actions in accordance with their beliefs. Which has nothing to do with what this country is founded upon and is the very reason for the idea of a separation from church and state. They don't want their rights taken but they will not hesitate to take yours, because they believe they know whats right for everyone.
These are the people willing to go to war against all purely for their beliefs, as many might, however, its their beliefs also that, when questioned, can't be proven not to be causing many of the problems they are so concerned with. And with such a fear and tradition based strangle hold on our country people don't stand up to them in the same numbers that disagree with them.
This is what I believe truly happened in our election. I think the religious right simply was frightened into waking up and voting while the liberal left or whoever was still in the defensive sleep mode that overtakes most voters. Its obviously not a clear majority, those who think a 51% is some sign from god for the moral reform are self serving delusionists.
Why did the religious right wake up in such a manner, Gay marriage. 11 states took decisive action against the proposal. Abortion rights and Bush's evangelical affiliation counts for most of the rest of that catagory.
Now, from what I remember and have seen and heard, and was even mentioned on this program, is that there is almost no evangelical organization not in the midst of contraversy. Its been shown how these people and their gatherings, especially the faith healers will abuse and manipulate people to gain monetary profits largely for themselves both in the name of God and the entire religious community. These are the "moral" advocates?
In this program the linked issues of abortion and poverty were also discussed. And I kept hearing that if only the mothers would marry the fathers things would be ok. Now there is a close minded argument. Chris Matthews was quick to say how giving these men jobs helps far more.
Look, Christianity and most other religions are not about peoples freedoms and rights, there are aspects of these issues in some of their writings but they still demand you live according to their personal beliefs or else. This is not the basis of a democracy.
Part of a system that this divided is to protect the minority from the majority. We cannot forget this.
"The Greatest Enemy of Knowledge is Not Ignorance, It is the ILLUSION of Knowledge. Stephen Hawking"
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Mankind via hardships returns to a constructive life only to follow his base instincts astray into self-destructive organization. If God removed free-will then the problem is solved? 
To the Christian this should translate into or has application in our current social dilema. 
Under the rights of the indivdual (free-will) gays have the right to form a counterfiet of the marriage relationship. Said action will involve going astray in self-destructive lifestyle. If government removes the individuals right then the problem is solved?
